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Message: 6 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 17:31:51 +0530 From: Marshall Mendonza <[email protected]> To: goanet <[email protected]> Subject: [Goanet] DEFENDING THEIR FEIFDOM-LOKPAL BILL Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 The government says a strong Lokpal will be answerable to nobody, civil society is trying to rewrite the Constitution and only higher bureaucracy may be included!**** I have been listening to the debates on TV and I can see that they are fighting tooth and nail to defend their fiefdom. So it appears that besides corruption,we will have to fight to defend and enforce the true spirit and interpretation of our Constitution and Democracy! John Gomes Response:**** The draft Lok Pal Bill and the debate thereon are like the Curate?s egg ? good in parts. While it is true that we need some mechanism to check and control corruption, the method being employed is unfortunately lacking. We are blind believers that if pass stringent laws or create constitutional authorities, the problems will simply go away and we will have ram rajya. The truth of the matter is that there is a surfeit of laws and a dearth of regulatory supervision. Corruption has so permeated every regulatory authority that it is next to impossible to eradicate it without drastic surgical intervention. Can you name one sector which is devoid of corruption? Our judiciary, our defence forces, our religious authorities, our educationists, our doctors, our lawyers have all been contaminated by corruption. And sad to say, I am seeing it even in the private sector and among NGOS RESPONSE By John Gomes; So far so good.However all the rest below is farfetched.Nobody can act like Superman/Dictator,Everything will be transparent and accountability is built in! The Lokpal has many members, with well thought out checks and balances, and arms in all States. There are stringent selection processes, procedures for removing members or the Lokpal, all actions/decisions subject to judicial review. It will be a body like the Election Commission.Do not believe the propaganda by the government.They keep repeating it on TV and in print! Justice Santosh Hegde is also with Supreme Court service AND is a practising Lok Ayukyta,TRY AS HE MIGHT IS unable to move and reign in corruption in the Karnataka government.I spoke to him on these very points when he was in Goa! Further,this is not a magic wand but required since the many laws in existance are definately more than enough but are just not being or allowed to be implemented.Permission has to be taken from those alleged culprits to even start enquiry.,CBI is their handmaiden and CVC hamstrung etc.The Civil Society members are experienced and eminent people,the best we have for this purpose of drafting a strong bill.Yes,even if passed,it will have to be implemented for which electoral, police,administrative and judicial reforms must follow! Let us take positive steps possible and not pontificate without moving forward .For forty years they have blocked this Bill .ARE YOU GOING TO LET THEM DO IT AGAIN? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The revulsion against politicians is so great that we all would like to believe the Lok Pal like some Superman is the answer to all our ills. However, we tend to ignore the fact the Lok Pal will be selected from one amongst us. What if he decides to take authority into his own hands and act like a dictator. What is the recourse to civil society? We all know how Giani Zail Singh tried to destabilize Rajiv Gandhi. What happens if power goes to the head of the Lok Pal? We are aware of how difficult it is to get rid of corrupt judges and other constitutional figures. We need to have checks and balances in the system. More importantly we need to inculcate good ethics and values in our children and citizens. We need people of integrity and strong character. Only then will there be positive change in society. While we do need an institution like Lok Pal let us not expect too much, lest we be disappointed. Regards, Marshall**** **** ** ** ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 20:31:08 +0530 From: "SOTER" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: [Goanet] Easy availability of drugs, alcohol in state worries church Message-ID: <000701cc3411$e53de930$1901a8c0@user77948b9580> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Easy availability of drugs, alcohol in state worries church TNN | Jun 26, 2011, 12.18pm IST PANAJI: The social arm of the Catholic church, Council for Justice and Peace (CSJP), has expressed "deep concern" over the rampant abuse of drugs in Goan society. "Goa, famous the world over because of its natural beauty and hospitality, has unfortunately been in the news for being a haven for drugs resulting in drug-related deaths of tourists and the exposure of a police-drug mafia nexus," said Fr Maverick Fernandes, executive secretary, council for social justice and peace. On Saturday, the eve of International Day against Drug Abuse and Illicit Drug Trafficking, Maverick expressed concern over the fact that the drug abuse problem was no longer restricted to the coastal belt, but was making steady progress inland too. The Goa police have always maintained that the sale of drugs is negligent in Goa and that they are only consumed by tourists visiting the coastal belt. However, last year, the lid was blown on the police-drug mafia nexus after the arrest of Israeli drug dealer David Driham alias Dudu. Recently, the CBI also registered cases against seven policemen, who they believed were involved with Israeli drug dealer Yusuv Benaim alias Atala. ANC PSI Sunil Gudlar was also suspended after Dudu's sister alleged that he was demanding a bribe from them. The CSJP said that it is equally concerned with the aggressive promotion and easy availability of alcohol being encouraged by the government which is adversely impacting Goan homes. "While the government has been enacting various laws for the welfare of the woman and child, the failure to impose sufficient curbs on the drug trade and on the consumption of alcohol in particular has been the cause of trauma for several homes in Goa's villages. It is most unfortunate, that under the garb of tourism, the government has been promoting intoxicants, and in the process promoting an unhealthy culture not only among tourists who visit the state but also among the local population," said Maverick. He also expressed concern over the "rising number of road accidents, drowning on beaches and anti-social activities resulting from alcohol and drug abuse ". Urging Goans to take a serious look at the culture of alcohol and drugs that is engulfing the state, the CSJP has advised the government to impose measures to curb the sale of alcohol and to bring to book those who in an intoxicated state endanger the lives of citizens and disturb the peace in their family and society. "The existing de-addiction centres in the state must be well equipped and manned with highly motivated and adequately qualified staff. Dedicated help lines and after-care centres need to be set up for giving guidance and therapeutic support to persons in distress due to drug and alcohol-related problems. Citizens, individually and collectively, are duty bound to work towards discouraging the use of alcohol at public functions and providing a healthy culture in order to promote holistic health and to protect the younger generation," Maverick added. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Easy-availability-of-drugs-alcohol-in-state-worries-church/articleshow/8999293.cms ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 09:41:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Joel Moraes <[email protected]> To: Goanet <[email protected]>, Goanet <[email protected]>, Goanet Reader <[email protected]>, [email protected] Subject: [Goanet] Noketram Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Noketram During recent times it was very difficult for me to sit at a place for continuous 3 hours watching a Konkani tiatr but Noketram,a tiatr by Aldrin forced me to watch the same without moving from my seat. The powerful drama delivers a powerful message against abortion and the superb scene on abortion confirms the great talent of the young director. All artists have done justice to their roles but special mention goes to the female artist,Tracy and I really don?t have words to appreciate the superb acting by the same.The comedy part is average and as usual Luis Bachan is at his best.Cent percent marks goes to the song on MOI by Elvis and Carmen and the same is highly recommended to BBSM.With regard to the only ?trio? I personally can?t agree because according to me the movie 'Dum Mari Dum' is a sad reality whereas according to the song it defames Goa. The song by the unborn soul who has been aborted by the mother is really touching and I personally agree to abortion being a Crime and at no cost it can be used as a measure for family planning when there are other suitable measures available. The music is just the best with special mention goes to the drummer boy from Cuncolim coming from the family of born musicians. The tiatr is really worth watching. Joel Morais P.O.Cuncolim, Bencleamvaddo, Salcette,Goa. Mob - 9970561727 ? ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 17:46:59 +0530 From: Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falc?o <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Subject: [Goanet] A father chooses what?s best, not the grandfather. Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Uday Bhembre says ?A father chooses what?s best, not the grandfather? in respect of his grandchild going to English MOI Primary School. So who is he to deprive the children of other Goans from the facility of their choice? Is he the second ?Father of the Nation? ? Is this a confused mind or a corrupt mind? http://www.epaperoheraldo.in/Details.aspx?id=475&boxid=3111171&uid=&dat=6/26/2011 Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falc?o. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 21:02:59 +0530 From: Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falc?o <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Medium of Instruction Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 04:51:39 -0700, Frederick FN Noronha ???????? ???????? *??????? ??????? wrote : <<<Antonio, That is not the point. It's unfair to abuse Parrikar or Bhembre's (or anyone else's) ancestors, just as it is incorrect for PB and Co to debate on the basis of Alemao's lack of formal education. The question is whose position is more realistic at this point of time, what do the parents prefer (and why!), what would be in the long term interest of the children, and while English is despicable at the primary level of education but perfectly fine at the middle/secondary/higher secondary and univ levels!...>>> COMMENT : I beg to differ with FN. Any Goan has a right to abuse Parrikar and Bhembre. One is an ex-CM and the other an advocate by profession. If the government has submitted an Affidavit, which is under oath, to the High Court on the decision by the government that Grants will given to English MOI Primary Schools, the government cannot decide otherwise, which will amount to perjury. Does an ex-CM or an advocate not know this? Then he is fit to be abused. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falc?o. ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:48:39 +0530 From: Antonio Menezes <[email protected]> To: goanet <[email protected]> Subject: [Goanet] Medium of Instruction Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 FN. It is not as simple as it looks at first glance. We all know the mentality too well. Could call my reaction , reverse casteism if you like. ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 08:48:54 +0530 From: Fatima Pais <[email protected]> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: [Goanet] Goa being dug out! Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Please circulate to as many Goans and non-Goans as possible if you think appropriate. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-UB9xrBzwA -- Alexandre Moniz Barbosa Satyameva jayate, naanritam -- Just think about these facts before you exercise 1. If walking/cycling is good for your health, the postman would be immortal. 2. A whale swims all day, only eats fish, drinks water and is fat. 3. A rabbit runs and hops and only lives 15 years. 4. A tortoise doesn't run, does nothing ...yet lives for 450 years. http://sunshinemay-sunshine.blogspot.com/ End of Goanet Digest, Vol 6, Issue 603 **************************************
