Here are my answers to Admin Noronha's questions.

Admin Noronha wrote:
>
>* What makes English a "foreign language"? National boundaries? Its origins? 
>How does this tie up with its current position in India, where it is used as 
>an >associate national language?
>

The fact that the native language of most Goans residing in Goa is Konknni, not 
English.

>
>* How do you define one's "primary language"? In places like Goa, does this 
>tally with the "official language" (both >in terms of script and dialect)?
>

The primary language is defined as the language that is spoken most of the time 
at home. It is usually also the first language that a child learns to speak. It 
does not necessarily tally with the official language in terms of script and 
dialect.

>
>* Is the presumption that we don't have to "teach one's kids grammatically and 
>lexically" when it comes to "their own mother tongue"
>

A child automatically learns the correct grammar and lexicon of his/her mother 
tongue.  It is only when he/she has to pick up a secondary language or adopt a 
second language as his/her primary language that he/she has to make a special 
effort to learns its correct grammar and lexicon. 

>
>The challenge is what happens to those still struggling to pick up those 
>skills. Do we treat them with disdain, charity, condescension or hope?
>

We provide them with better schools and teachers. We encourage them to read and 
write in the language of their choice, and provide them with all the resources 
that they need to do so. This can be undertaken both as a public and private 
effort.


Cheers,

Santosh



----- Original Message -----
From:  Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك 
نورونيا  <[email protected]>

All good arguments, but veering off the point. A few issues struck me
while reading this:

* What makes English a "foreign language"? National boundaries? Its
origins? How does this tie up with its current position in India,
where it is used as an associate national language? 


* Also, what about these facts: " Today there are more non-native than
native users of English, and English has become the linguistic key
used for opening borders: it is a global medium with local identities
and messages (Kachru 1996: 11,14). English has become a world
language, spoken by at least 750 million people. It is more widely
spoken and written than any other language, even Latin, has ever been.
It can, indeed, be said to be the first truly global language. English
is nowadays the dominant or official language in over 60 countries." 
http://www.languageinindia.com/may2003/annika.html 


* How do you define one's "primary language"? In places like Goa, does
this tally with the "official language" (both in terms of script and
dialect)? 


* Is the presumption that we don't have to "teach one's kids
grammatically and lexically" when it comes to "their own mother
tongue". Does the process of language acquisition among children vary
according to what they claim as their relationship with a local,
national or "foreign" language? This raises a whole lot of issues, specially in 
places like Goa, where
those who are capable have picked up English to near mother-tongue
levels (the TOEFL scores and Dr Kurzon's work has studied that). 


The challenge is what happens to those still struggling to pick up those
skills. Do we treat them with disdain, charity, condescension or hope?
FN

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