Again, confining myself to facts rather than opinions, I have no idea what currently accepted universal scientific or medical definition of race Josebab uses to declassify Indians as a race. But let me just tell you how the US Department of Health and Human Services Data Standards for Race, Ethnicity, Sex, Primary Language, and Disability Status classifies the different races in the world today. This race categorization standard is the one that has to be followed by all U.S.
physicians and medical scientists like me today. Please see: http://minorityhealth.hhs.gov/templates/content.aspx?ID=9228&lvl=2&lvlID=208#1 This standard was also published in the following article by the Journal of American Medical Association: Dorsey, R., and Graham, G., New HHS Data Standards for Race, Ethnicity, Sex, Primary Language, and Disability Status, JAMA, December 7, 2011—Vol 306, No. 21, 2379. Here is the relevant quote: QUOTE RACE DATA STANDARD What is your race? (One or more categories may be selected) ____White ____Black or African American ____American Indian or Alaska Native ____Asian Indian ____Chinese ____Filipino ____Japanese ____Korean ____Vietnamese ____Other Asian ____Native Hawaiian ____Guamanian or Chamorro ____Samoan ____Other Pacific Islander Please note the race of "Asian Indian" above. On another front, it is not surprising that the concept of self-hate when applied to one's race or nation as a whole, is hard to grasp, because it is easy to recast it as hatred of others by disowning or denying any shared identity with those others of your own kind that you are hating. You do not hate Indians like you. You hate Maharashtrians or Biharis or ghantis. You hate Muslims or Christians or Hindus or outcastes. Then it is not self-hate anymore. Of course! How silly of me! This was nicely laid bare by the writer Dilip D'Souza in Times of India in 2003 in an OpED entitled "Sons Of The Soil: Unravelling The Idea Of India". This article has been lifted and republished by the left-wing website Countercurrents.org. Here is the link: http://www.countercurrents.org/comm-dsouza271103.htm The best ironic quote in it was the following: QUOTE In 1994, the Sena’s Bal Thackeray went to Goa and urged audiences to “keep non-Goans out of Goa ” by implementing a permit system. The irony of this advice coming from a non-Goan seems to have escaped both Mr Thackeray and his listeners. Where is this logic, if it is logic, going to leave us? Will we pursue it even if it means more lives lost? Will we hold to it until it breaks us? What happened to those constitutional guarantees that any Indian can settle and work anywhere in India ? UNQUOTE Cheers, Santosh ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Colaco < jc>" <[email protected]> > > On 1 March 2013 21:03, Vivian A. DSouza <[email protected]> wrote: > > [1] We Indians...White people ...a tan ...curly hair straighten ... > skin lightening creams. ..... plastic surgery .. .expensive > anti-wrinkling (Botox) ... > [2] Caste... is an insidous SEIL-INFLICTED differentiation that > separates people from birth. An abomination that appears very > difficult to eradicate. > > === > > Generic COMMENT: (I will place the following on the table and unless > specifically invited to, will not debate responses to my comments. It > is my point of view, and I absolutely know that others will have > theirs) > > a: Vivian has made some good points. > > b: I submit that Adult individuals of sufficient capacity have the > human right do whatever they wish to themselves. Some take vitamins, > others Botox. To each his/her own. Not my place to criticise private > decisions of mentally-capable adults, unless they endanger or > otherwise inconvenience the lives and well-being of others. > > c: I disagree that 'Indians are a race', unless (cherry picking some > of the definitions found on line) we are also saying that Goans, > Bengalis, Keralities, Tamils etc each are a race, and/or that we could > all be 'Pakis' as the RW Brits call us. > >
