Thanks for the advice John. I've been reading about GQuery and it does seem good, though I have some concerns about whether it might be abandoned. I think my plan is to learn JQuery, as I feel like that should also teach me a lot about how the browser operates, which is a gap in my knowledge. I think I should learn something "close to the metal" (metal being browser in this case) before moving on to frameworks that abstract the browser away to a greater extent. I guess if I use JQuery, switching to GQuery at any time should not be problematic, and I get the best of both worlds. And I would sure love to hang on to GWT's RPC mechanism.
Mike On Sep 10, 12:56 am, John Patterson <[email protected]> wrote: > BTW, you can use GWT in a manor very similar to JQuery. Take a look a > GQuery by Ray Cromwell. He has an incredible benchmark page which > dynamically shows how GQuery out performs JQuery in almost every measure. > > On 10 September 2010 05:53, John Patterson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > You might want to look into Sitebricks which is a Google developed web app > > framework built on top of Guice. It is a simple request response processor > > with no fancy "component" abstractions like Wicket or Tapestry. This model > > fits in very well with GWT (or other client frameworks) which request data > > via RPC or small snippets of rendered html to assemble on the client. > > > It is still very much in active development so you have to be prepared to > > dig into the code and figure out the plumbing yourself. The author, Dhanji, > > has built a fantastic API here - simple, powerful and clever. > > >http://code.google.com/p/google-sitebricks/ > > > John > > > On 10 September 2010 05:35, tempy <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Thanks for the explanation Chris! > > >> Guess I'm learning jquery, golly, I'll be a real web programmer yet. > >> =) > > >> On Sep 9, 7:58 pm, "Chris (Google Employee)" <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > Hi Mike, > > >> > I think the reason we don't explicitly publish a list of "frontend > >> > frameworks that play well with App Engine" is because there really is > >> > no technical barrier between front end frameworks that work in the > >> > browser such as JQuery, etc and the backend (App Engine). Many App > >> > Engine users make full use of a myriad of front end technologies/ > >> > frameworks for UI creation ranging from HTML5/JS/CSS to flash etc. > > >> > JQuery is especially popular for a variety of Web app usages, so if > >> > that works for you, I'd definitely continue trying it out. > > >> > Hope this helps, > >> > -Chris > > >> > On Sep 9, 10:43 am, tempy <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > Hello all, > > >> > > A little background... I'm mostly new to web frontend development, I > >> > > come from a mostly backend and desktop background. I have a GAEj app > >> > > that provides the backend for a rather sophisticated desktop/mobile > >> > > app. This backend will also drive a website in addition to the > >> > > desktop/mobile app. > > >> > > The website will show a small subset of the data in the system. I > >> > > started with GWT, but it doesn't seem to be quite right. The website > >> > > is for presentation of a small subset of the system's data only, and > >> > > users do not interact with the data in any way other than searching > >> > > for it. As the data is mostly unstructured text and some images, I > >> > > feel most comfortable formatting it with plain old html/css. In fact, > >> > > the layout of the site will be minimal and look a lot like a blog. As > >> > > such, the website should certainly not feel like a single-page "web > >> > > application" a la gmail. With GWT, I have little use for widgets and > >> > > find myself constantly fighting with it to get a non-application look- > >> > > and-feel. > > >> > > The only functionality that I thus really need from GWT is the RPC > >> > > component, the page should be AJAX, I don't want to do round trips to > >> > > the server for every navigation event. > > >> > > So, I'm not quite sure which framework to use with the GAEj backend. > >> > > At first GWT seemed like a natural fit, but now seems like overkill. > >> > > I'm doing some research on jquery, but I haven't seen a list of > >> > > "frontend frameworks that play well on GAEj" anywhere. > > >> > > Thanks for any advice, > >> > > Mike > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Google App Engine for Java" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to > >> [email protected]. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]<google-appengine-java%2B > >> [email protected]> > >> . > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine for Java" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
