Well I certainly hope the lockin will end very soon (I've been waiting for over a year), http://code.google.com/cloudportability/
But who knows, I've learned you cant trust Google, they are even trying to kill net neutrality! On Nov 9, 9:08 am, Maxim Veksler <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Ikai, > > I would like to tackle the question from a different angel. > > Is GAE ready for real time web applications? What would your suggestion be > for a startup such as ours, where the service *must* be online 24/7 and > every minute of downtime costs our clients money (&law suits... let's not > get into that). Can we base our business model on GAE? Do you consider the > system production ready? Would you advise we have an ready for execution > exit strategy? > > I understand these are though questions to answer being a Google employee. > > Judging by past month pingdom monitoring history of our POC - the error rate > is relatively high (HTTP 500, > 30sec reply timeouts and co.). Please don't > get me wrong we are happy with GAE, our company communication is running on > Google Apps Premium and we would gladly signup for Google App Engine for > Business SLA (b.t.w, if any early testers access is available - Please let > me know). > > I would appreciate comments on the above. > > Also, a note about EC2 as it came up in this thread. We run our rendering & > analytics on EC2. Works cool as long as you don't need autoscale (manual, > before job submission scale is super easy -- Just API fire up as many > instances as you need). > > Maxim. > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:50 AM, Ikai Lan (Google) > <[email protected]<ikai.l%[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > I'm biased, naturally, but here's my piece: > > > They're both great, young platforms, and successful businesses have been > > built on both Google App Engine as well as Amazon EC2. Amazon's lower level > > access appeals to some, whereas Google App Engine's abstractions appeal to > > the folks in this group. > > > Have you actually used EC2 before? If not, new accounts can sign up for a > > free "micro" instance. You'll want to check this out before you make any > > decisions. Since you're already looking at EC2, why not look at VPS > > solutions? I personally prefer a provider such as Slicehost or Linode to EC2 > > for anything I can't currently do on Google App Engine. > > > -- > > Ikai Lan > > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine > > Blogger:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com > > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine > > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine > > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 5:59 PM, JY <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> I want to ask fellow GAE users whether you think GAE is good choice to > >> build real business on? > >> I have used GAE for some personal projects, and right now help a > >> friend on a tiny start up (but with big dream). The project is related > >> to social network - I am thinking of two options: > >> 1, GAE > >> The benefits are obvious. However, it is also locking you in....you > >> don't have much control over it. If you are unhappy later, you will > >> have to redo the persistence layer and migrate data etc. > >> 2, EC2 > >> You have much more control, and if the start-up gets funding, it is > >> easy to migrate to dedicated hosting or even its own data center. The > >> down side is developer (me, and only me) will have to spend quite some > >> time to take care of the infrastructure (although I like this kind of > >> work...) > > >> I think my biggest concern of GAE is over the quality of service, and > >> the data-store - if I go EC2, I probably will use a NoSQL solution > >> like MogoDb, or Cassandra. The development efforts might be similar - > >> all products are sort of young, hot, and limited. > > >> Thanks. > > >> JY > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Google App Engine for Java" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to > >> [email protected]. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]<google-appengine-java%2B > >> [email protected]> > >> . > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Google App Engine for Java" group. > > To post to this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<google-appengine-java%2B > > [email protected]> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine for Java" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
