> You have > nothing of value to contribute to the discussion except to badger the > people who reported this problem.
On the contrary. I've pointed out how to actually solve the problem. > > Throughout this, you've acted like Google has some obligation to make > > GAE applications visible in China. It doesn't. > > And who are you to say it doesn't? I'm someone who understands that obligations come from laws and contracts. Feel free to point to the relevant chapter and verse that obligates Google to make GAE applications visible in China. If there's no such law or contract, what is the basis of the obligation that you think exists? (Yes, you're free to not use GAE if Google can't solve the "China access" problem, but your freedom to go elsewhere doesn't obligate Google. After all, you're free to not use GAE for any reason, such as not painting their buildings pink, yet no one thinks that Google is obligated to paint its buildings pink.) Google may choose to try to make GAE applications visible in China. (I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that they're doing what's reasonable. Feel free to provide evidence to the contrary. And no, failing isn't evidence that they're not doing what they can.) Google may also suggest work-arounds. However, absent a contract and/or a law, Google isn't obligated to make GAE applications visible in China. > I want the option to host my app in Google's China data center Good for you. And Google may, or may not, offer such an option. Note "may not" - they're under no obligation to do so. (I don't presume to know the risks and costs of offering such an option. After all, China can block at the edge of the data centers, impose conditions, or even shut them down.) > > Actually, I do know about those and lots of other bandaids. However, > > I also know how they all fail. > > You "know" they all fail? How? Reread what I actually wrote. I know HOW they all fail, that is, what the Chinese have done to thwart such bandaids in the past. This isn't the first time that China has blocked stuff, so we can look at what they've done before and see some of what they can and will do. (I don't assume that they're unwilling/unable to do things that they haven't done before.) While it's possible that this time they won't use techniques that have worked before, I wouldn't bet that they won't. Of course, you're free to act as if they won't. On Apr 3, 3:35 pm, Andy <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sure there is - unless you know how to fix the problem. (Surely > > you're not going to argue that you're reporting an unknown problem.) > > After all, you complained about someone else's posting with "This is a > > forum for people to share information on GAE and solve problems." > > Indeed this is a forum for "people to share information on GAE and > solve problems." The original poster reported a problem. You have > nothing of value to contribute to the discussion except to badger the > people who reported this problem. Therefore I ask you to either > contribute or shut up. > > Just like if someone started shouting in a library I'd also ask him to > cut it out. So in your world that's also "pot and kettle" huh? > > > Throughout this, you've acted like Google has some obligation to make > > GAE applications visible in China. It doesn't. > > And who are you to say it doesn't? > I want to hear from a Google employee on their position on this. I'm > not interested in your misguided opinion on what Google might or might > not consider is their responsibility or your "political/moral" drivel. > > > That's assuming that the Chinese want appengine apps to get through. > > Since they're blocking, I'm pretty sure that they want to block at > > least some app engine apps and are willing to block them all to block > > the ones that they don't want. > > What are the odds that they haven't tried that? > > Much higher than the odds that you actually know what you're talking > about. > > > SInce China is blocking app engine because it doesn't like certain app > > engine apps and those apps are the most likely to want to want to use > > such an option .... > > Who are you to say which apps are "most likely to want to use such an > option"? > > I want the option to host my app in Google's China data center and my > app would have no problem getting approval. > > > Actually, I do know about those and lots of other bandaids. However, > > I also know how they all fail. > > You "know" they all fail? How? Have you actually tried the solutions? > > Oh wait you couldn't have actually tried them because you don't even > work for google. You're just another Internet riffraff out to make a > fool of himself and waste everyone else's time. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
