Colin, what you are describing can definitley be done in the free version. No need to use the biz version unless you want to. I think there is some confusion on the user authentication piece, let me try and simplify. You have 3 options for making your application private: 1. Write your own user management system in which your users login and are authenticated against a "users list" you control. 2. Use the google users service for authentication in tandem with your own code to check against a "users list" (I would recommend this method). This means that your users would login with an existing google account, via the App Engine Users API, but after they log in your application would verify that paticular google username is allowed to access your application. If they are on your list great, if they are not you redirect them to an access denied page. 3. Sign up for a google Apps domain and Appengine for Biz. Then the application is restricted to the users which you have listed on your Apps Domain.
Hope this helps. -ben On Sep 11, 2:20 pm, colin <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Barry, I had just dusted off my PHP guide, > Do you mean my url leads to a home page with some general text and a > logon widget that would be part of my app (programed by me), placing a > cookie on the user's machine and restricting access to the rest of the > site to names on a hidden list? > If so, that would do it. > > On Sep 11, 8:16 pm, Barry Hunter <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Appengine for business - only for Apps domain users. > > > Normal AppEngine, - upto you to implement your own autherization > > system. The Users API provided make it easy to autheniticate against > > Google Accounts or Apps domains. But you are not limited to use it. > > Can implement your own whitelist of who can login. > > > Sounds like your app will probably fit in the free quota that AppEngine > > provides > > >http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/whatisgoogleappengine.htmlhttp:... > > > On 11 September 2010 18:41, colin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Thanks but I don't want a google apps domain (had to find out what it > > > was). I am slightly confused - sorry. Here's my original post: > > > > Some years ago "I wrote a workflow, invoicing and payment tracking > > > software using MS Access and VB. It gets accessed about once a day. It > > > has about six tables and maybe 2000 records among all of them. I want > > > to put it in a cloud and look forward to learning Python. In the > > > future maybe three users in different citties will access the on-line > > > version." > > > > I am willing to pay max $12 a year for each user if Google hosts this. > > > Do you know of any work around? > > > Colin > > > > On Sep 11, 4:19 pm, Tim Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> You don't need GAE4B if you want to limit logins to users of a google > > >> apps domain, > > >> that can be done now with normal instances. > > > >> T > > > >> On Sep 11<[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > Oh! > > >> > I want my app to be private. > > >> > Looks like GAE4B. > > >> > Can I simply add my planned (and extremely modest) app to my shared > > >> > folder on Google Docs without GAE4B? > > >> > Otherwise the best course would be to write a new PHP module for one > > >> > of my Drupal sites. > > >> > ?? > > > >> > On Sep 10, 8:29 pm, "Ikai L (Google)" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > > Yes, only users on your Google Apps domain will be able to use a > > >> > > GAE4B > > >> > > application. You won't be able to open it up to general @gmail.com, > > >> > > OpenID > > >> > > users, or use your own authorization system. > > > >> > > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:29 AM, colin <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > Ikai, thanks for an encouraging answer :-). > > >> > > > The terms are more than little confusing for newbies like me and I > > >> > > > don't want to start down a wrong track. Do I understand that my > > >> > > > planned tool can be accessed via a url and restricted via a logon > > >> > > > procedure to a handful of users? (like memobuild.com?) > > > >> > > > If my experience is positive, I want to develop bigger projects for > > >> > > > the Google App Engine. One of these may have a smart-phone browser- > > >> > > > interface. But first, I have to get up to speed with Python (looks > > >> > > > good so far and I sense it will execute faster than PHP). > > > >> > > > On Sep 9, 8:52 pm, "Ikai L (Google)" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > Normal pricing. GAE4B pricing applies if you are writing an > > >> > > > > application > > >> > > > that > > >> > > > > is only accessible for Google Apps (Gmail, Docs) users and not > > >> > > > > the > > >> > > > general > > >> > > > > public. Here's an example: > > > >> > > > > Google App Engine (current) > > > >> > > > > You create an image sharing service anyone can use. > > > >> > > > > Google App Engine for Business > > > >> > > > > You create an expense reporting tool that you want tied to a > > >> > > > > specific > > >> > > > Google > > >> > > > > Apps Domain, say, ikaicorp.com that only [email protected] can > > >> > > > > use. > > >> > > > This > > >> > > > > application can be administered via the ikaicorp.com domain > > >> > > > > console. > > > >> > > > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:15 PM, colin <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > I am confused by the two pricing policies (app engine for > > >> > > > > > business and > > >> > > > > > app engine). > > > >> > > > -- > > >> > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >> > > > Groups > > >> > > > "Google App Engine" group. > > >> > > > To post to this group, send email to > > >> > > > [email protected]. > > >> > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> > > > [email protected]<google-appengine%2Bunsubscrib > > >> > > > [email protected]> > > >> > > > . > > >> > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >> > > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > > >> > > -- > > >> > > Ikai Lan > > >> > > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine > > >> > > Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com > > >> > > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine > > >> > > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "Google App Engine" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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