Great news! And thanks Ben and Barry. I like method 2 also (it's associated with Google's enhanced security policy). OK, then, back to slicing and cloud-aware printers :-) colin
On Sep 11, 11:36 pm, Ben <[email protected]> wrote: > Colin, what you are describing can definitley be done in the free > version. No need to use the biz version unless you want to. I think > there is some confusion on the user authentication piece, let me try > and simplify. You have 3 options for making your application private: > 1. Write your own user management system in which your users login and > are authenticated against a "users list" you control. > 2. Use the google users service for authentication in tandem with your > own code to check against a "users list" (I would recommend this > method). This means that your users would login with an existing > google account, via the App Engine Users API, but after they log in > your application would verify that paticular google username is > allowed to access your application. If they are on your list great, > if they are not you redirect them to an access denied page. > 3. Sign up for a google Apps domain and Appengine for Biz. Then the > application is restricted to the users which you have listed on your > Apps Domain. > > Hope this helps. > > -ben > > On Sep 11, 2:20 pm, colin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Thanks Barry, I had just dusted off my PHP guide, > > Do you mean my url leads to a home page with some general text and a > > logon widget that would be part of my app (programed by me), placing a > > cookie on the user's machine and restricting access to the rest of the > > site to names on a hidden list? > > If so, that would do it. > > > On Sep 11, 8:16 pm, Barry Hunter <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Appengine for business - only for Apps domain users. > > > > Normal AppEngine, - upto you to implement your own autherization > > > system. The Users API provided make it easy to autheniticate against > > > Google Accounts or Apps domains. But you are not limited to use it. > > > Can implement your own whitelist of who can login. > > > > Sounds like your app will probably fit in the free quota that AppEngine > > > provides > > > >http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/whatisgoogleappengine.htmlhttp:... > > > > On 11 September 2010 18:41, colin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Thanks but I don't want a google apps domain (had to find out what it > > > > was). I am slightly confused - sorry. Here's my original post: > > > > > Some years ago "I wrote a workflow, invoicing and payment tracking > > > > software using MS Access and VB. It gets accessed about once a day. It > > > > has about six tables and maybe 2000 records among all of them. I want > > > > to put it in a cloud and look forward to learning Python. In the > > > > future maybe three users in different citties will access the on-line > > > > version." > > > > > I am willing to pay max $12 a year for each user if Google hosts this. > > > > Do you know of any work around? > > > > Colin > > > > > On Sep 11, 4:19 pm, Tim Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> You don't need GAE4B if you want to limit logins to users of a google > > > >> apps domain, > > > >> that can be done now with normal instances. > > > > >> T > > > > >> On Sep 11<[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > Oh! > > > >> > I want my app to be private. > > > >> > Looks like GAE4B. > > > >> > Can I simply add my planned (and extremely modest) app to my shared > > > >> > folder on Google Docs without GAE4B? > > > >> > Otherwise the best course would be to write a new PHP module for one > > > >> > of my Drupal sites. > > > >> > ?? > > > > >> > On Sep 10, 8:29 pm, "Ikai L (Google)" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > > Yes, only users on your Google Apps domain will be able to use a > > > >> > > GAE4B > > > >> > > application. You won't be able to open it up to general > > > >> > > @gmail.com, OpenID > > > >> > > users, or use your own authorization system. > > > > >> > > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:29 AM, colin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > > > Ikai, thanks for an encouraging answer :-). > > > >> > > > The terms are more than little confusing for newbies like me and > > > >> > > > I > > > >> > > > don't want to start down a wrong track. Do I understand that my > > > >> > > > planned tool can be accessed via a url and restricted via a logon > > > >> > > > procedure to a handful of users? (like memobuild.com?) > > > > >> > > > If my experience is positive, I want to develop bigger projects > > > >> > > > for > > > >> > > > the Google App Engine. One of these may have a smart-phone > > > >> > > > browser- > > > >> > > > interface. But first, I have to get up to speed with Python > > > >> > > > (looks > > > >> > > > good so far and I sense it will execute faster than PHP). > > > > >> > > > On Sep 9, 8:52 pm, "Ikai L (Google)" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > > > > Normal pricing. GAE4B pricing applies if you are writing an > > > >> > > > > application > > > >> > > > that > > > >> > > > > is only accessible for Google Apps (Gmail, Docs) users and not > > > >> > > > > the > > > >> > > > general > > > >> > > > > public. Here's an example: > > > > >> > > > > Google App Engine (current) > > > > >> > > > > You create an image sharing service anyone can use. > > > > >> > > > > Google App Engine for Business > > > > >> > > > > You create an expense reporting tool that you want tied to a > > > >> > > > > specific > > > >> > > > Google > > > >> > > > > Apps Domain, say, ikaicorp.com that only [email protected] > > > >> > > > > can use. > > > >> > > > This > > > >> > > > > application can be administered via the ikaicorp.com domain > > > >> > > > > console. > > > > >> > > > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:15 PM, colin <[email protected]> > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > I am confused by the two pricing policies (app engine for > > > >> > > > > > business and > > > >> > > > > > app engine). > > > > >> > > > -- > > > >> > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > > >> > > > Google Groups > > > >> > > > "Google App Engine" group. > > > >> > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > >> > > > [email protected]. > > > >> > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > >> > > > [email protected]<google-appengine%2Bunsubscrib > > > >> > > > [email protected]> > > > >> > > > . > > > >> > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > >> > > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > > > >> > > -- > > > >> > > Ikai Lan > > > >> > > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine > > > >> > > Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com > > > >> > > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine > > > >> > > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups "Google App Engine" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > [email protected]. > > > > For more options, visit this group > > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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