"Can i pay to prevent those errors?"  <--  That would be pretty shady.

You will probably always have at least a few request failures when
dealing with millions of requests.  Is there no retry if a request
fails?


Robert






On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 13:55, nacho <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi, i'm developing an application that will have 1 million request per
> day at least.
>
> Every request will be charged to an account of my application. So if
> the request fails, the company loses money.
>
> Reading this group messages i am getting fear that my application will
> not work as i spect. For example this post o this other
> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/0768f6cd7237829d#
>
> My question is the following: the paid applications have the same
> problems than the non paid applications? Can i pay to prevent those
> errors?
>
> I really want to deploy my app in appengine but the company obviously
> can't lose money.
>
> Is there any solution?
>
> On 26 sep, 09:49, Joshua Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 1 random error is completely the norm in google app engine.  You need to 
>> program defensively, because any call to the data store to write data might 
>> fail.  Exception handlers are your friend.  This is something you are 
>> trading off in exchange for automatic scaling, no charges at all during the 
>> startup phase of your business when you have few customers, and really low 
>> prices if/when your business takes off.  It's a drag that you have to defend 
>> against the datastore throwing random errors, but in my case, it's 
>> definitely outweighed by the positives.
>>
>> What is not the norm is a condition like we've seen the past week.  Every 
>> few months, GAE will have a really bad week like this.  It always seems to 
>> happen just after "scheduled maintenance".  I agree that this is completely 
>> unacceptable, and I'm pretty sure google thinks so, too.  I think they tend 
>> to prioritize fixing the problems over communicating with us when things get 
>> bad.  And that's understandable.  Frankly, I couldn't care less about their 
>> platitudes -- I want the problems fixed.
>>
>> No service provider is perfect, and it's OK for us all to gripe about GAE 
>> being imperfect, but jumping to another provider because of one bad week is 
>> probably something you'll regret.
>>
>> -Joshua
>>
>> On Sep 25, 2010, at 4:18 PM, jintx wrote:
>>
>> > I feel like I am in the twilight zone.  After having a great
>> > experience with other Google products, I foolishly dove into App
>> > Engine development.  I now have a product ready for a customer and do
>> > not know what to do.  Ever since a couple of weeks ago I am seeing
>> > NUMEROUS random errors.  Way more errors than acceptable.  Is even 1
>> > random error from the "same scalable systems that power our own
>> > applications" acceptable?
>>
>> > I feel as if I am in the Twilight Zone when I read this group, seeing
>> > constant posts about random errors.  Then, I rarely see any response
>> > from Google.  I would feel a little better if I at least saw a post
>> > saying, "Yes, we know that the system is in a very error prone state
>> > and are feverishly working to return app engine to a reliable state
>> > within the next week."
>>
>> > Then, I check the status page and it lists everything OK.  ??? Are you
>> > serious?? Is this status page more for PR purposes than for actual
>> > use??
>>
>> > Is there any response on these issues?  Are they being worked on?  Is
>> > the design of app engine that most users should just learn to accept
>> > and live with random 500's ?  The product is 2 years old now and seems
>> > extremely buggy.  You just recently admitted the data store was below
>> > par, and waived everybody's billing for the datastore.  Now you
>> > reinstate billing, and datastore performance seems to be terrible.  Is
>> > it time for another upgrade???  If so upgrade it.
>>
>> > Anybody know of any reputable developers who specialize in porting app
>> > engine apps away from app engine?
>>
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