Hi Google Folks,

For all these years, you had a Why App
Engine<http://code.google.com/appengine/whyappengine.html> page
which lists the 2nd point as..

 *Free and Risk-free Development*
> Not only is creating an App Engine application easy, it's free! You can
> create an account and publish an application that people can use right away
> at no charge, and with no obligation. When you need to use more resources,
> you can enable billing and allocate your budget according to your needs.
> Detailed pricing for usage that has exceeded the free quota on our Billing
> page <http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/billing.html>.


And in the billing page which is linked-to in that reason, CPU hours based
billing was highlighted. While our apps were built for and optimized to work
efficient on the platform for the given pricing, Google now changed the
rules of the game because Google was not able to predict that the old model
is unsustainable for nearly 3 years. After 3 years you realized that
instance based pricing (actually, process-based) is the way to go.

While Google had earlier mentioned that the rates will increase only
nominally and not multiple folds, you now say that Google App Engine is not
meant to be an affordable and generic app hosting platform but is supposed
to be a premium service (*highlight added by me*)...

your app can be slashdotted or tweeted by demi moore....... or perhaps you
> may need to build/host something on the scale of both the royal wedding blog
> and event livestream with traffic numbers that are mindblowing ..... *these*
> are the reasons for using App Engine. *it was not meant as free/cheap
> generic app-hosting but to provide a premium service* that's difficult to
> get elsewhere in the market. if you're just after the former, there are
> plenty of options for you.


Sad to know that Google have used early adopters as testing resources for
the "premium" platform.

I will not be leaving the platform.. I love the engineering effort Google
has put into this. Just sad that I cannot make my app accessible for users
looking for affordable database apps. I will have to look for a new domain
name for my custom online database app
builder<http://creator.ifreetools.com>over Google App Engine,
"iFreeTools Creator" --> "iPremiumTools Creator"
probably !!

And for those looking for more affordable options, I will have to look into
one of the "plenty of options", for hosting their database applications.

Thanks & Regards,
R.Rajkumar


On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Vinuth Madinur <[email protected]>wrote:

> I'm sorry. What we tried is not exactly what we are going to be buying.
> Nobody had a clue what the real prices would look like and earlier
> speculations were shot down as ridiculous projections.
>
> What we tried was a platform where I dont have to worry about Instances and
> tuning the scheduler for costs. Tell me with a straight face that this is
> the same platform.
>
> Announcing it in May and taking 2 months to make a FAQ and still managing
> to keep everyone guessing isn't exactly preparing everyone for it.
>
> People repeatedly asked if GAE now wants to go enterprise only. There was
> no response. Now you lash out against them saying it's common sense.
>
> People are still pointing out bugs with scheduler, and everyone has 2 weeks
> time after looking at their prices. And SLA only for HR apps. Single
> threaded Python runtime. Haha.
>
> You should have written this mail back in May.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:58 AM, Wesley C (Google) <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Angke Chen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> If all you said is true, then why the billing in the preview was so
>>> cheap for 3 years?
>>>
>>> BAIT AND SWITCH I call.
>>
>>
>>
>> it usually takes awhile for a product to bake before realizing that it is
>> indeed viable to the market. we couldn't make it *completely* free, so a
>> pay-as-you-go method worked well for Google and App Engine users alike. we
>> also wanted to continue to attract users to platform. as i already mentioned
>> in my previous message: "it was/is also in it's beta or preview period...
>> a time for users to "try before you buy."
>>
>> 3 years isn't unreasonable for a preview period, and since we launched,
>> we've kept on making improvements and adding new features to the platform --
>> new releases about every 6-10 weeks! yes, there have been a few small bumps
>> along the way, but this is the way of the cloud. we're continuing to make
>> the platform better for users, and hopefully some of you will see that it's
>> still a worthwhile endeavor!
>>
>> best regards,
>> -- wesley
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> "Core Python Programming", Prentice Hall, (c)2007,2001
>> "Python Fundamentals", Prentice Hall, (c)2009
>>    http://corepython.com
>>
>> wesley.chun : wesc+api at google.com : @wescpy
>> developer relations :: google cloud products
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