on the lighter note, man, I wish my app cost $10000/month to run. ;) what are you using ? java or python ?
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Andrin von Rechenberg <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi there > > We are a bit confused. From all the threads we see on this mailing list > it seems that it is expensive to run small applications on GAE in practice > and that many small developers are turning away from GAE (see note 1). > > We are not a small developer. Our monthly cost will go from $10'000 to > $20'000 per month. So we would think of us as medium/big customers. > At this point we also would like to state that we LOVE developing system > on Google AppEngine. Our only issue really is the operating cost. > > Amazon offers double the CPU power and 6x the amount of RAM > (EC2 Small Instance) for the price of one Google Frontend instance. > > Amazon offers you a raw machine, you can do whatever you like in this > machine and don't have the limitations of Google AppEngine's. You want > to open a socket, you open one. You want to run a powerful fulltext search > backend, you do so. This makes an amazon CPU hour much more powerful > than a GAE one and should also be taken into account when thinking about > pricing. So I just throw a number out and say Google is 4x more expensive > than Amazon (see note 2) > > On the other hand, you have to worry yourself about scale, uptime, > failovers, > databases etc. etc. This seems to be Google's argument for the > justification > of the 4x higher prices then on amazon. Yes, of course it is very nice to > not > having to cary a pager and that someone else is taking care of your system, > but this argument is pointless: For the extra $10'000 per month we are > going > to have to spend with the new pricing scheme we will just hire a site > reliability > engineer that does nothing but taking care of the EC2 servers. Fulltime. > Yes > he might have to stand up occasionally in the middle of the night, but most > of the time he will not have to do anything for his $10'000 per month and > we > as the devs wont have to carry a pager either. > > We are really thinking about moving out of GAE. We would definitely not > start another project with the size of ours on GAE. So I'd say for > medium/big > size projects GAE isn't ideal either. > > So who is Google targeting with Google AppEngine? > > We are indeed confused. > > With best regards, > - Andrin, Founder of MiuMeet. > > > > Note 1) assuming that the discussions on this mailing list are a relevant > sample > of the what the average developer feels, which is probably not true > > Note 2) 2x the CPU cost, 6x the RAM cost, and you have the limitations of > Google AppEngines framework. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
