Of course you can say that it's a nice problem to have ;)
But if your revenue drops into the negative numbers
you are also screwed much quicker. :(

it's running on python.

On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Gopal Patel <[email protected]> wrote:

> on the lighter note, man, I wish my app cost $10000/month to run. ;)
>
> what are you using ? java or python ?
>
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Andrin von Rechenberg 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hi there
>>
>> We are a bit confused. From all the threads we see on this mailing list
>> it seems that it is expensive to run small applications on GAE in practice
>> and that many small developers are turning away from GAE (see note 1).
>>
>> We are not a small developer. Our monthly cost will go from $10'000 to
>> $20'000 per month. So we would think of us as medium/big customers.
>> At this point we also would like to state that we LOVE developing system
>> on Google AppEngine. Our only issue really is the operating cost.
>>
>> Amazon offers double the CPU power and 6x the amount of RAM
>> (EC2 Small Instance) for the price of one Google Frontend instance.
>>
>> Amazon offers you a raw machine, you can do whatever you like in this
>> machine and don't have the limitations of Google AppEngine's. You want
>> to open a socket, you open one. You want to run a powerful fulltext search
>> backend, you do so. This makes an amazon CPU hour much more powerful
>> than a GAE one and should also be taken into account when thinking about
>> pricing. So I just throw a number out and say Google is 4x more expensive
>> than Amazon (see note 2)
>>
>> On the other hand, you have to worry yourself about scale, uptime,
>> failovers,
>> databases etc. etc. This seems to be Google's argument for the
>> justification
>> of the 4x higher prices then on amazon. Yes, of course it is very nice to
>> not
>> having to cary a pager and that someone else is taking care of your
>> system,
>> but this argument is pointless: For the extra $10'000 per month we are
>> going
>> to have to spend with the new pricing scheme we will just hire a site
>> reliability
>> engineer that does nothing but taking care of the EC2 servers. Fulltime.
>> Yes
>> he might have to stand up occasionally in the middle of the night, but
>> most
>> of the time he will not have to do anything for his $10'000 per month and
>> we
>> as the devs wont have to carry a pager either.
>>
>> We are really thinking about moving out of GAE. We would definitely not
>> start another project with the size of ours on GAE. So I'd say for
>> medium/big
>> size projects GAE isn't ideal either.
>>
>> So who is Google targeting with Google AppEngine?
>>
>> We are indeed confused.
>>
>> With best regards,
>> - Andrin, Founder of MiuMeet.
>>
>>
>>
>> Note 1) assuming that the discussions on this mailing list are a relevant
>> sample
>> of the what the average developer feels, which is probably not true
>>
>> Note 2) 2x the CPU cost, 6x the RAM cost, and you have the limitations of
>> Google AppEngines framework.
>>
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