Sadly, the source app is java so I can't run the datastore admin. Enabling the feature it was a mistake.
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Barry Hunter <[email protected]>wrote: > Well I was just going to suggest you use the datasotre admin > http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/adminconsole/datastoreadmin.html > > to view your datastore, to see if the data is still there. > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Phil McDonnell > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Also, minor possibility, but I noticed "Datastore Admin" was enabled in > my > > settings. Perhaps there is a bug associated with that and deploys? > > Thanks, > > Phil > > > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Phil McDonnell > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> I investigated the namespace idea and I don't believe that's being used > >> here at all. The one data class that is still accessible is a remnant > from > >> some earlier work and no longer used which may explain why it doesn't > become > >> inaccessible/disappear. > >> Any more ideas on how entire datastore classes might become inaccessible > >> directly after a deploy? It does not happen every time I deploy, but > when > >> it does it makes all of our data inaccessible, with the exception of > the one > >> data class that we don't use anymore. > >> Thanks for your help and input, > >> Phil > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Phil McDonnell > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi guys, > >>> Apologies for using unclear terminology on this. I understand the > >>> details of how the data is stored on BT. This is not local - this is > on the > >>> production instance. > >>> This idea of something happening that makes the > data inaccessible sounds > >>> possible. I'm running on version 2 of my app. Could that be an issue? > I'm > >>> not very familiar with the namespace feature, but I can read up on > this. > >>> Are there other ways that the data might disappear? > >>> Ikai, in case it's useful, my app id is coupflipsite. > >>> Thanks so much for all the thoughts here. Getting to the bottom of > this > >>> is extremely important for us and I very much appreciate your wisdom on > >>> this. > >>> Thanks again, > >>> Phil > >>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Ikai Lan (Google) <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Thanks for the explanation Barry. Phil, it sounds like you are talking > >>>> about the local datastore. Can you clarify? > >>>> -- > >>>> Ikai Lan > >>>> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine > >>>> plus.ikailan.com | twitter.com/ikai > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:29 AM, Barry Hunter <[email protected] > > > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> That doesn't even make sense > >>>>> > >>>>> The Datastore has no concept of 'table'. > >>>>> > >>>>> All Entities - regardless of their kind- are stored in one 'bigtable' > >>>>> - they are all intermingled. In fact all Entities from everyone's > apps > >>>>> are stored in the same bigtable. > >>>>> > >>>>> So to delete a 'table' - which is really just all entities of a given > >>>>> kind for a given app - would need to loop though and delete each > >>>>> individual entity. Once there are no entities of a given kind/model > >>>>> left, the 'kind' has effectively been dropped. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I would guess need to check you aren't somehow using the application > >>>>> version in the Kind name or even the key?. Then when the application > >>>>> is updated, the version changes and therefore the old entities become > >>>>> inaccessible. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Phil McDonnell > >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> > Twice now a deploy has cleared several of the data tables in my > >>>>> > deployed > >>>>> > datastore. Does anyone know what causes this? The symptoms both > >>>>> > times are > >>>>> > consistent. I do a deploy and the datastore drops several of the > >>>>> > tables. > >>>>> > Strangely, one very old (and generally unused) table is not > dropped > >>>>> > and my > >>>>> > blob data is still there. Is this dropping of data/tables on > deploy > >>>>> > a > >>>>> > known "feature" that I'm somehow not understanding? Note, this > does > >>>>> > not > >>>>> > happen on every deploy. > >>>>> > We are still pre-launch, but I'm extremely concerned that this > could > >>>>> > happen > >>>>> > when we are live. If we drop our data when we are live it would > cost > >>>>> > us a > >>>>> > lot of money. > >>>>> > Thanks so much, > >>>>> > Phil > >>>>> > > >>>>> > -- > >>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>> > Groups > >>>>> > "Google App Engine" group. > >>>>> > To post to this group, send email to > >>>>> > [email protected]. > >>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>>> > [email protected]. > >>>>> > For more options, visit this group at > >>>>> > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>> Groups "Google App Engine" group. > >>>>> To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>>> [email protected]. > >>>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups "Google App Engine" group. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>> [email protected]. > >>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > >>> > >> > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Google App Engine" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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