You can http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/adminconsole/datastoreadmin.html
See the "A Note for Java Developers" section. On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Phil McDonnell <[email protected]> wrote: > Sadly, the source app is java so I can't run the datastore admin. Enabling > the feature it was a mistake. > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Barry Hunter <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Well I was just going to suggest you use the datasotre admin >> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/adminconsole/datastoreadmin.html >> >> to view your datastore, to see if the data is still there. >> >> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Phil McDonnell >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Also, minor possibility, but I noticed "Datastore Admin" was enabled in >> > my >> > settings. Perhaps there is a bug associated with that and deploys? >> > Thanks, >> > Phil >> > >> > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Phil McDonnell >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> I investigated the namespace idea and I don't believe that's being used >> >> here at all. The one data class that is still accessible is a remnant >> >> from >> >> some earlier work and no longer used which may explain why it doesn't >> >> become >> >> inaccessible/disappear. >> >> Any more ideas on how entire datastore classes might become >> >> inaccessible >> >> directly after a deploy? It does not happen every time I deploy, but >> >> when >> >> it does it makes all of our data inaccessible, with the exception of >> >> the one >> >> data class that we don't use anymore. >> >> Thanks for your help and input, >> >> Phil >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Phil McDonnell >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hi guys, >> >>> Apologies for using unclear terminology on this. I understand the >> >>> details of how the data is stored on BT. This is not local - this is >> >>> on the >> >>> production instance. >> >>> This idea of something happening that makes the >> >>> data inaccessible sounds >> >>> possible. I'm running on version 2 of my app. Could that be an issue? >> >>> I'm >> >>> not very familiar with the namespace feature, but I can read up on >> >>> this. >> >>> Are there other ways that the data might disappear? >> >>> Ikai, in case it's useful, my app id is coupflipsite. >> >>> Thanks so much for all the thoughts here. Getting to the bottom of >> >>> this >> >>> is extremely important for us and I very much appreciate your wisdom >> >>> on >> >>> this. >> >>> Thanks again, >> >>> Phil >> >>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Ikai Lan (Google) <[email protected]> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks for the explanation Barry. Phil, it sounds like you are >> >>>> talking >> >>>> about the local datastore. Can you clarify? >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Ikai Lan >> >>>> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine >> >>>> plus.ikailan.com | twitter.com/ikai >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:29 AM, Barry Hunter >> >>>> <[email protected]> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> That doesn't even make sense >> >>>>> >> >>>>> The Datastore has no concept of 'table'. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> All Entities - regardless of their kind- are stored in one >> >>>>> 'bigtable' >> >>>>> - they are all intermingled. In fact all Entities from everyone's >> >>>>> apps >> >>>>> are stored in the same bigtable. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> So to delete a 'table' - which is really just all entities of a >> >>>>> given >> >>>>> kind for a given app - would need to loop though and delete each >> >>>>> individual entity. Once there are no entities of a given kind/model >> >>>>> left, the 'kind' has effectively been dropped. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I would guess need to check you aren't somehow using the application >> >>>>> version in the Kind name or even the key?. Then when the application >> >>>>> is updated, the version changes and therefore the old entities >> >>>>> become >> >>>>> inaccessible. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Phil McDonnell >> >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>> > Twice now a deploy has cleared several of the data tables in my >> >>>>> > deployed >> >>>>> > datastore. Does anyone know what causes this? The symptoms both >> >>>>> > times are >> >>>>> > consistent. I do a deploy and the datastore drops several of the >> >>>>> > tables. >> >>>>> > Strangely, one very old (and generally unused) table is not >> >>>>> > dropped >> >>>>> > and my >> >>>>> > blob data is still there. Is this dropping of data/tables on >> >>>>> > deploy >> >>>>> > a >> >>>>> > known "feature" that I'm somehow not understanding? Note, this >> >>>>> > does >> >>>>> > not >> >>>>> > happen on every deploy. >> >>>>> > We are still pre-launch, but I'm extremely concerned that this >> >>>>> > could >> >>>>> > happen >> >>>>> > when we are live. If we drop our data when we are live it would >> >>>>> > cost >> >>>>> > us a >> >>>>> > lot of money. >> >>>>> > Thanks so much, >> >>>>> > Phil >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > -- >> >>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >>>>> > Groups >> >>>>> > "Google App Engine" group. >> >>>>> > To post to this group, send email to >> >>>>> > [email protected]. >> >>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >>>>> > [email protected]. >> >>>>> > For more options, visit this group at >> >>>>> > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >>>>> Groups "Google App Engine" group. >> >>>>> To post to this group, send email to >> >>>>> [email protected]. >> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >>>>> [email protected]. >> >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >> >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >>>> Groups "Google App Engine" group. >> >>>> To post to this group, send email to >> >>>> [email protected]. >> >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >>>> [email protected]. >> >>>> For more options, visit this group at >> >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups >> > "Google App Engine" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > [email protected]. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Google App Engine" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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