@Jeff - Saying: "40,000 page views per day is not a lot - if *every single one* of those wrote to an entity, you're still under the free 50k datastore operations" simply isn't true, is it?
One entity with, say, 5 properties would take at least 5 (probably more) write operations to persist it. This means 40,000 * 5 would be 200,000 datastore operations - way over the free limit. Please correct me if I'm wrong, this is just my understanding of how this works. On Nov 3, 7:08 pm, Jeff Schnitzer <[email protected]> wrote: > I think you should re-examine your data model. > > 40,000 page views per day is not a lot - if *every single one* of > those wrote to an entity, you're still under the free 50k datastore > operations. And even if every one of those page views wrote to > *three* entities, an extra 100k writes will cost you all of $0.10. > > If you exceed the $9/mo minimum spend on 40k page views per day, you > are doing something wrong. If I had to guess, your schema is probably > *way* too normalized and you're probably not using memcache > effectively. > > Jeff > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Xin Liu <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Community, > > > First of all, I loved App Engine since its inception in 2008, I was very > > exciting and happy to get my hands on App Engine and Python in June 2008. > > > But now I'm so sorry and sad that I will have to leave. > > > My site V2EX.com ( v2ex.appspot.com ) is one of the largest communities of > > developers and designers in China, it's launched on App Engine since 2010. > > > Now serving about 40000 page-views a day, 13000+ registered users, 165000+ > > posts and ranked 11800 according to Alexa. > > > New pricing means 10x change for me, it will go from $0.9 to $12.76 a day > > (numbers taken from usage history on Nov 1), so it'll be $360 a month. > > > I'm living in China, $360 can do many meaningful things here, it's almost > > enough to hire someone. > > > Since my site is not making enough money now, at least it can't cover new > > pricing, so I'm afraid that I'll have to leave and port my site to > > AWS/Linode. Because new pricing not just more expensive, it also prevented > > me to develop new features. Since my site is a very active community, so > > even I got it optimized, memcache can't always help because each time when > > users post something, then pages need to be updated. More active posting, > > more updates, and that leads to millions datastore reads/writes every day. > > Btw I was just curious about how much would it cost to run Jaiku.com under > > new pricing? > > > In old pricing, datastore reads/writes are not charged, so it was safe for > > active communities like my site. But now, more interactions mean > > unaffordable bills. I'm feeling really really bad about this change. > > > Perhaps it's also a good chance for me to figure out a better way to make > > more money. > > > Hasta la vista, Google App Engine. > > > Xin Liu > > > @livid > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Google App Engine" group. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/cmUxJ1LeSZYJ. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
