Hi, Brian, Gregory

Thanks for your valuable insights!
I did know about the issue 6323 and had stared it. However I was not
sure it was the same as the issue mentioned CPU bound requests.
My app is very much RPC bound. I've added a comment to this thread to
the issue and I've set threadsafe: no and will monitor. So far latency
seems Ok and the number of instances is 5x-6x of when I had
threadsafe: yes.
I do agree with Felippe, we should be able to maintain the 50%
discount until python27 and threadsafe are fully supported.
This is also making things worse - it seems the minimum latency is not
being enforced correctly, I also have this.
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=5765&can=5&sort=-status&colspec=ID%20Type%20Component%20Status%20Stars%20Summary%20Language%20Priority%20Owner%20Log

Sérgio


On Dec 7, 5:12 am, "Gregory D'alesandre" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Felippe,
>
> As you noted Python 2.7 is released.  While Python 2.7 is still
> experimental it is working well for some but indeed there are still issues
> before it will be fully GA.  There was a concern that we were abandoning
> Python because there was no solution for concurrent requests.  Python 2.7,
> even in its current state, shows that we are not abandoning Python.  We
> tried our best to make appropriate trade-offs with the new pricing model
> but at some point we needed to roll it out for the reasons we've discussed
> at length in the past.  For instance, when this was written we were also
> going to launch the new pricing 1.5 months earlier than we actually
> released it, which likely saved you quite a bit of money, as opposed to
> this which is costing you more.
>
> While my guess is you'd still rather that the 50% discount persisted I hope
> that answers your question,
>
> Greg
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Felippe Bueno <[email protected]>wrote:
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> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Brian Quinlan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> There is a known bug where the combination of Python 2.7 and enabling
> >> concurrent requests causes large latency increases. The Python 2.7
> >> runtime is still experimental and bugs like this are expected.
>
> > Ok, I understand that.
>
> > Greg, could you please let us know why we have the new full-sized instance
> > hour for python and still not have python concurrent requests ?
>
> > I'm asking because you 
> > wrote<http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/...>
> > :
>
> > Q: Will there be a solution for Python concurrency?  Will this require any
> > code changes?
> > Python concurrency will be handled by our release of Python 2.7 on App
> > Engine.  We’ve heard a lot of feedback from our Python users who are
> > worried
> > that the incentive is to move to Java because of its support for
> > concurrent
> > requests, so we’ve made a change to the new pricing to account for
> > that.  *While
> > Python 2.7 support is currently in progress it is not yet done *so we
> > will be **
> > providing a half-sized instance for Python (at half the price) until
> > Python
> > 2.7 is released.* *
>
> > Ok, I know. It was already released (as experimental), but I thought that
> > the purpose to holding "full-sized instances" was to give to python users
> > the concurrent requests.
>
> > Thanks
>
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