Just an evolutionary approach about Stack: > > Since most Qs are basic, how could SO have become so popular if basic Qs > were discouraged?!
Maybe because nobody invented (yet) anything better. But actually I don't see any problem with Stack, but with Google who doesn't propose to his user a way to ask non welcomed stack question (of course my arguments doesn’t work if your perception of stack is true, that it welcomes "good questions", but it works with my perception of Stack : good question can be down-voted. And being downvoted while asking (a valid question) for support does not fit with the idea I have of a good customer service/support). Anyway, I don't need to agree with you on that point to like you. What an interesting guy you are ! I hope to have the chance to see you or your wife passing with your (red) Prius's license plate is P♥︎THON. I'm passionate about this (you) kind of passionate people who burn themselves for their passion which in turn helps others. I feel honored to have talks with one of these python gods (the one who participate to this awesome tool). Concerning your life achievement I wish I could download your knowledge... Maybe I will, if all the guys like you continue to do what they are doing! In the million people you helped, some might invent that kind of improvement. Who knows... No, I won't give you the URL, you have already done too much. Billion users are waiting for you, and some of them to improve the world. Thanks for who you are, and greeting to Anna which apparently share your values and your fecund goals ps: - yes, *our* docs (and in particular, product naming) could definitely be > better, Does that mean you work for Google? If yes, don't worry: nobody is perfect! On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 4:03 AM, 'Alex Martelli' via Google App Engine < google-appengine@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Guillaume France <gc.com...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi again Alex, I just found your email in the thread, the one you were >> talking about the raw= encoders.encode_base64(msg) . >> >> I discovered that bug yesterday and commented that line (which correctly >> send the email ― without the attachment though, would have been too easy!). >> But I did not know what was wrong with this encoder (so many thing to >> understand in that code), so I thank you for your explanation. >> > > You're welcome! > > >> >> I'm really impressed you helped me despite the italic line and above >> all: despite the fact I ended up in the wrong forum (it's embarrassing!) >> you are an amazing guy... >> > > *blush*:-) > > >> >> So thanks a lot, I finally took the "risk"to face a downvote mob justice >> by posted it in stack. I'm also curious to see if it will be downvoted (so >> I could sue Google for that!) >> > > Out of curiosity, could you please post the URL to your question? While > not directly relevant to google cloud platform, it IS still the weekend, > so, I might spend some of my own time seeing if I can help further there...! > > > Thanks, > > Alex > > > >> >> Guillaume, your proudly 44.000.001's user you helped >> >> On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Guillaume France <gc.com...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Alex, >>> >>> *First I apologize for the italic, that wasn't mature. But your reaction >>> was super: I warmly thank you for that!* >>> >>> I also thank you for the quality of your answer. Especially for pointing >>> me to the right forum (I'm both impressed and sorry. Impressed you did not >>> send me to the right forum right away, it says a lot about you. I'm also >>> sorry to have wasted your time). >>> >>> Regarding the Google group: I did the "brief search" you are talking >>> about to try to find the right Gmail api forum, I just typed "Gmail api" >>> and this group was the most accurate group name. The other result >>> <https://developers.google.com/gmail/api/support> asked me to post >>> downvoted question on Stack. >>> >>> The Google-appengine name surprised me, but since I usually find Google >>> documentation obscure, coming from Google an obscure name sounds logical >>> (it's even more obscure since the right group did not even come as the >>> first result). >>> >>> >>> Concerning Stack, I have a completely different experience, or I would >>> say you have a completely different perception than all the stack users I >>> know. Your explanation is interesting: >>> >>> My reputation score there is over half a million, so I must not have >>>> lost too many points by asking inappropriate questions -- which suggests to >>>> me that I do know which questions are or are not appropriate there. >>>> >>> >>> But I have an even simpler explanation : Your question are not >>> down-voted because the questions you ask aren't basic. >>> >>> >>> Basic users struggle in Stack, because they are looking for basic >>> information, the one that seem so obvious to people like you (it's not >>> judgmental, on the contrary) that nobody asks them. Asking these basic >>> questions aren't welcome on Stack (at all) because they look stupid, or >>> lacking a research investment. (It also applies to the "a brief search >>> suggests". My brief search suggested this Google-appengine group). Many >>> stack people don't really get that some stack users aren't all programmers. >>> I understand that stack hasn't been made for the basic users, I accept it >>> and I'm glad to have it, but I have a completely different opinion than >>> yours. ((It's fascinating how people could have different way to look at >>> the same reality.)) >>> >>> "Sharing to help other users", not in response to specific technical >>>> questions, is not within this remit >>> >>> >>> Ok, but that's a kind of answers that are very, very precious for basic >>> users (because they seems too obvious that nobody talks about it). >>> >>> I just finish by warmly thanking you for the million people you have >>> helped, that's really something to be proud of ―more of anything. 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