An update 1) John Lowry adopted my issue and debugged it with me, he was very transparent and helpful and genuinely interested in helping
2) I improved my system, logged both Cloudflare wrapped and raw appspot.com 500 errors, verified that these 500 issues do happen, and they are invisible to the logs (it's not a cloudflare issue, easier to observe with appspot.com) *Result: If you are using App Engine, you might be losing traffic, losing customers, and as far as you and your logs are concerned, these issues are invisible - sadly, both from responses to issue, and my issue tracker threads (one example: https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/112668010 - there are other major/minor issues reported by me, none of them are solved, usually the responses are aimed to stonewall issues ) - None of these issues are being solved, no one is interested in improving anything it seems* This specific issue is in the network layer, so basically, the problem is that, it's not being propagated to App Engine logs, it's a major breach of trust in my opinion, I'm not complaining about errors, errors do happen, apps should adapt, but the problem is, if you can't observe errors, you can't adapt, I'm only able to log these issues by catching them (appengine is down when you catch them) - keep them for 40 seconds, and report them after 40 seconds, at which time, assumably the network is back up, so maybe my logging logic is failing, maybe the network isn't back up after 40 seconds, and I'm missing some of them too, I can't know, I likely need a 3rd party logging solution The most saddening aspect is, I again invested a lot of my time and energy in debugging the issue, helping find the cause, trying my best, yet, has anything changed? Nope. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/69d82e34-161a-476a-9bdc-c6ac07dc729d%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
