Dear Reinier,
I don't know what is long form of FUD, but it appears from
the context that it is some bad phrase. I am sorry if my intentions
appeared to be bad from my last posts. I assure you that they are not
and my concerns were genuine. My doubts were almost clear by Luciono's
response; I have saved the links he has provided.
Your response has made it clear that you and I are getting
different pages upon clicking the first link in my last post. Probably
some cookie on my computer is responsible.
Anyway, thanks for your response. I am looking forward to
competing in GCJ 2011 with Java again.
Regards!
Eagle
On Nov 15, 11:06 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]> wrote:
> OpenJDK is open source. Are you intentionally spreading FUD or someone
> else has been FUDding you?
>
> Just because some oracle download page links to java downloads does
> not imply that the license on the earlier page applies. For example,
> if you follow the link to java downloads on your first link, you get
> to this
> page:http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
> - where you can't find that license you mentioned anywhere. Or, just
> download any Oracle-supplied JVM and you'll find no such license
> anywhere there either.
>
> Your second link is for the OTN. You do not need to be a member of OTN
> to use / develop for java.
>
> On Nov 15, 2:39 pm, Eagle <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the information! But, just check the following
> > two links-
>
> > 1. http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/indexes/downloads/index.html
> > where it is mentioned that-
> > [quote]
> > Please note that all Sun product patches, updates and firmware on the
> > Sun Download Center (also known as CDS and SDLC) and on SunSolve will
> > be moving to My Oracle Support. After 10 December 2010, these will
> > only be available on My Oracle Support from the Patches and Updates
> > tab. Information on accessing and using My Oracle Support can be found
> > at the My Oracle Support Welcome Center for Oracle Sun Customers and
> > Partners.
>
> > Access to other types of content on Sun Download Center is not
> > changing at this time. However, please note that in the future these
> > will be moving to either Oracle Technology Network Software Downloads
> > site, or to Oracle eDelivery.
> > [unquote]
>
> > 2.http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/testcontent/standard-license-088383...
> > where it is mentioned that-
> > [quote]
> > We grant you a nonexclusive, nontransferable limited license to use
> > the programs only for the purpose of developing, testing, prototyping
> > and demonstrating your application, and not for any other purpose. If
> > you use the application you develop under this license for any
> > internal data processing or for any commercial or production purposes,
> > or you want to use the programs for any purpose other than as
> > permitted under this agreement, you must obtain a production release
> > version of the program by contacting us or an Oracle reseller to
> > obtain the appropriate license. You acknowledge that we may not
> > produce a production release version of the program and any
> > development efforts undertaken by you are at your own risk. We may
> > audit your use of the programs.
> > [unquote]
>
> > So, I am confused. Whether the links mentioned by you are
> > latest or the above two are latest?
> > Please guide.
>
> > Thanks in advance,
>
> > Eagle
>
> > On Nov 15, 3:55 am, Luciano Morozowski Junior <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > I couldn't find where it was written that "now we can use Java only for
> > > self
> > > use". From a Java SE
> > > FAQ<http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/overview/faqs-jsp-13669...>
> > > :
>
> > > 8.* Q: Is Java SE still 'free'?
> > > *
> > > * A:* Java SE continues to be available under the Sun Binary Code
> > > License
> > > (BCL) with no additional cost for its use. The only change to the Java SE
> > > platform is the length of time for which Sun intends to provide updates
> > > and
> > > support for Java Se release families. For more information on licensing
> > > terms, see the license overview
> > > page<http://www.sun.com/software/javaseforbusiness/getit.jsp>
> > > .
>
> > > Oracle offers "Java for Business", which is a paid JVM that no "business"
> > > is
> > > required to buy. AFAIK, anyone (either personal or business) can still use
> > > the free Java SE JVM.
>
> > > Regards,
> > > Luciano.
>
> > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 17:54, Eagle <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > I used Java to solve problems in GCJ 2009 and 2010. Prior to
> > > > that I used C++ in GCJs. A couple of days ago, I was going through
> > > > license of Java. It seems that now we can use Java only for self use.
> > > > Even its use for productive purposes in own organization will not be
> > > > allowed without permission from Oracle (the new owner of Java).
> > > > Similar terms are there for developing a commercial application. In
> > > > view of this, will Java be allowed in GCJ 2011? This is important,
> > > > because if it is not then it is better to start practice in some other
> > > > language for the upcoming competition.
>
> > > > Eagle
>
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