do we need to study whole of C++ and All the standard algorithms to appear
in a competiton like GCJ please guid e e guys as this is my first appearance
here

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Eagle <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Reinier,
>
>          I don't know what is long form of FUD, but it appears from
> the context that it is some bad phrase. I am sorry if my intentions
> appeared to be bad from my last posts. I assure you that they are not
> and my concerns were genuine. My doubts were almost clear by Luciono's
> response; I have saved the links he has provided.
>          Your response has made it clear that you and I are getting
> different pages upon clicking the first link in my last post. Probably
> some cookie on my computer is responsible.
>          Anyway, thanks for your response. I am looking forward to
> competing in GCJ 2011 with Java again.
>          Regards!
>
> Eagle
>
>
>
> On Nov 15, 11:06 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]> wrote:
> > OpenJDK is open source. Are you intentionally spreading FUD or someone
> > else has been FUDding you?
> >
> > Just because some oracle download page links to java downloads does
> > not imply that the license on the earlier page applies. For example,
> > if you follow the link to java downloads on your first link, you get
> > to this page:
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
> > - where you can't find that license you mentioned anywhere. Or, just
> > download any Oracle-supplied JVM and you'll find no such license
> > anywhere there either.
> >
> > Your second link is for the OTN. You do not need to be a member of OTN
> > to use / develop for java.
> >
> > On Nov 15, 2:39 pm, Eagle <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >            Thanks for the information! But, just check the following
> > > two links-
> >
> > > 1.  http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/indexes/downloads/index.html
> > >     where it is mentioned that-
> > >     [quote]
> > >  Please note that all Sun product patches, updates and firmware on the
> > > Sun Download Center (also known as CDS and SDLC) and on SunSolve will
> > > be moving to My Oracle Support. After 10 December 2010, these will
> > > only be available on My Oracle Support from the Patches and Updates
> > > tab. Information on accessing and using My Oracle Support can be found
> > > at the My Oracle Support Welcome Center for Oracle Sun Customers and
> > > Partners.
> >
> > > Access to other types of content on Sun Download Center is not
> > > changing at this time. However, please note that in the future these
> > > will be moving to either Oracle Technology Network Software Downloads
> > > site, or to Oracle eDelivery.
> > >    [unquote]
> >
> > > 2.
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/testcontent/standard-license-088383...
> > >         where it is mentioned that-
> > >     [quote]
> > > We grant you a nonexclusive, nontransferable limited license to use
> > > the programs only for the purpose of developing, testing, prototyping
> > > and demonstrating your application, and not for any other purpose. If
> > > you use the application you develop under this license for any
> > > internal data processing or for any commercial or production purposes,
> > > or you want to use the programs for any purpose other than as
> > > permitted under this agreement, you must obtain a production release
> > > version of the program by contacting us or an Oracle reseller to
> > > obtain the appropriate license. You acknowledge that we may not
> > > produce a production release version of the program and any
> > > development efforts undertaken by you are at your own risk. We may
> > > audit your use of the programs.
> > > [unquote]
> >
> > >          So, I am confused. Whether the links mentioned by you are
> > > latest or the above two are latest?
> > > Please guide.
> >
> > >      Thanks in advance,
> >
> > > Eagle
> >
> > > On Nov 15, 3:55 am, Luciano Morozowski Junior <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > > I couldn't find where it was written that "now we can use Java only
> for self
> > > > use". From a Java SE
> > > > FAQ<
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/overview/faqs-jsp-13669...>
> > > > :
> >
> > > > 8.* Q: Is Java SE still 'free'?
> > > > *
> > > > *    A:* Java SE continues to be available under the Sun Binary Code
> License
> > > > (BCL) with no additional cost for its use. The only change to the
> Java SE
> > > > platform is the length of time for which Sun intends to provide
> updates and
> > > > support for Java Se release families. For more information on
> licensing
> > > > terms, see the license overview
> > > > page<http://www.sun.com/software/javaseforbusiness/getit.jsp>
> > > > .
> >
> > > > Oracle offers "Java for Business", which is a paid JVM that no
> "business" is
> > > > required to buy. AFAIK, anyone (either personal or business) can
> still use
> > > > the free Java SE JVM.
> >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Luciano.
> >
> > > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 17:54, Eagle <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >         I used Java to solve problems in GCJ 2009 and 2010. Prior
> to
> > > > > that I used C++ in GCJs. A couple of days ago, I was going through
> > > > > license of Java. It seems that now we can use Java only for self
> use.
> > > > > Even its use for productive purposes in own organization will not
> be
> > > > > allowed without permission from Oracle (the new owner of Java).
> > > > > Similar terms are there for developing a commercial application. In
> > > > > view of this, will Java be allowed in GCJ 2011? This is important,
> > > > > because if it is not then it is better to start practice in some
> other
> > > > > language for the upcoming competition.
> >
> > > > > Eagle
> >
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