Yes.  If the 24 hour qualification round did not exist then I would
possibly have issue with output flexibility (even then probably not,
this is a programming contest and programming is about delivering what
the customer wants right?)

Given the fact that every competitor has a 24 hour period in which to
respond and get the output right (as in qualification, penalty time
doesn't even matter) this is a no-brainer.  If you haven't learned how
to get the output right from the qualification round, then you've no
right to complain about it in Round 1.

Paul Smith

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On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Lego Haryanto <[email protected]> wrote:
> Why do we want to reduce the the number of wrong submissions at
> qualifying rounds by new participants?  The 24 hour qual round has
> ample time for new participants to notice this mistake.  If anything,
> these participants will just have to learn to follow output spec the
> hard way and then most likely they won't repeat the same mistake
> again.
>
> To me, it's more advantageous for new competitors that way rather than
> relying on the mercy of the tester.
>
> But, that's just my opinion.
>
> On Monday, May 30, 2011, vettukal <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Its true that making GCJ tester code that will accommodate all
>> differences and satisfy all participants is impossible to make. But
>> evaluating English words(NO,IMPOSSIBLE,RED etc)  which are in output
>> in a case insensitive manner is not that difficult to implement.
>> It may reduce number of wrong submissions at Qualifying rounds by new
>> participants.
>>
>> On May 30, 3:01 am, Lego Haryanto <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I'm not sure why this can be a frustrating thing.  I would probably be
>>> frustrated if I had to work on the GCJ tester code that tries to
>>> accomodate all those differences, yet will never be able to satisfy
>>> all circumstances.  From a few posts, it seems that GCJ system is
>>> already nice enough to point out possible errors, but it certainly is
>>> not worthwhile to do much more than that.
>>>
>>> The input/output specification is already very clear IMO and following
>>> them as verbatim as we can be is our very first task, IMO.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 23, 2011, vettukal <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > In the output
>>>
>>> > Case #45: NO
>>> > is not equal to
>>> > Case #45:No
>>>
>>> > Case #45:
>>> > Impossible
>>>
>>> > is not equal to
>>>
>>> > Case #45: Impossible
>>>
>>> > This can lead to a very frustrating effort to debug the program when
>>> > real bug is something this trivial.
>>>
>>> > The timer which tells how much time is left at the top of the page is
>>> > small and not very visible. Please make it bigger and bolder. It would
>>> > be nice if u add a timer at the bottom of the page coz most of the
>>> > times we are seeing the sample input and output section of the page.
>>>
>>> > And as suggested earlier please make a link to our nickname which
>>> > shows our email link. May be next time every contestant can have a
>>> > (optional) profile page linked to his nickname. It may have his email
>>> > id, his blog address (whatever he wants to put on that page.)
>>>
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