Have you actually managed to make that program fail? I haven't, even in a
very tight loop (which I had to add), and your code doesn't loop, it's just
a one time run.

Let's start with a program that fails reliably and then we can investigate
(and it should be easy to make it fail if you run it enough times).


-- 
Cédric



On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Tim Peierls <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Let's be concrete: can you write a program that gets initialized
>> correctly with constructor injection and incorrectly with field injection?
>> I've tried to come up with one with various techniques (misusing volatile,
>> synchronized, the doubly locked idiom, etc...) but I've never been able to
>> come up with one. My gut feeling right now is that it can't be done on X86.
>>
>
> That's not how the game is played. It's not "Can you come up with an
> example that demonstrates a failure for my choice of platform?" It's quite
> common to find concurrency bugs that cannot be reliably reproduced.
>
> A better question would be: Is there a program for which the safety
> guarantees of final are meaningful? Here's my attempt to construct one:
>
> https://gist.github.com/Tembrel/7633294
>
> It's an artificial program, but data races like these happen in real life.
> I'm willing to pay for constructor injection with a little boilerplate to
> help defend against the possibility that a library I use is unintentionally
> racy.
>
> --tim
>
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