Frank, You hit the nail on the head about what I am asking, so thank you again. Can you recommend a web java framework? Hip is great if possible, but well-designed is better. I do want to use the google Java libraries.
Jeff On 2/1/07, Frank Mantek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Modifying the site google creates for you is normally ugly, hacky, HTML > scrapping and reconstructing stuff. Can't really recommend that to anyone > sane.... > > There are two issues here: you want to create your own websites and play > with "getting data from a 3rd party and build something cool out of it", > that 3rd party being google. > > There are lot's of good frameworks out there, RubyOnRails and Django are > hip once right now (I personally played with and like Django a lot - but i > can't say i build an enterprise scale thing with it...). There are things > like ASP.NET <http://asp.net/> and Java technologies as well - they work > well and are solid these days, but as hip as writing an accounting system in > Cobol these days... > > The benefit of playing with ASP.NET <http://asp.net/> or Java frameworks > is that you could use the clientlibs we provide to communicate with google > on your webserver. Not hip, but sure faster. PHP has a framework as well, > and is also a good environment to start creating websites. > > For Python and Ruby i am currently not aware of the state of client > libraries. > > Considering that, if you want to just play for fun, i can highly recommend > python with Django. > > Frank > > On 1/30/07, MatchBook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Well, I assumed that the design of the website would be the same. In > > my original question, I was talking about how to communicate with > > google services. I am still interested in that. But now I am also > > taking up the point about to practice with building a website. For > > instance, I'd like to be able to modify the website that google hosts > > for me. > > > > Jeff > > > > On Jan 30, 12:38 pm, "Frank Mantek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Now you are having me confused.. are you talking about a website that > > talks > > > to google, or is hosted by google? > > > > > > Frank Mantek > > > > > > On 1/30/07, Jeffrey Flint < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, Frank. I am still curious about how I could apply any > > java > > > > programming into a website that is hosted by google. Also, and this > > > > > > question may be a little off the mark, but I am also curious if you > > have any > > > > recommendation about an development environment for websites. I am > > thinking > > > > that I should download an opensource webserver, like Apache, and > > play with > > > > building a website locally on my machine before publishing it to the > > website > > > > hosted by Google. Am I on the right track? > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > On 1/29/07, Frank Mantek < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > No, they work. The client is involved in the initial > > authentication for > > > > > a webapp (after all, if i sign up for our service, and you want to > > get my > > > > > googledata, i need to say "ok, go ahead"), but not after that > > step. > > > > > > > > There is a wiki page that explains the .NET support, we are not > > done > > > > > with providing a full sample yet though (soo much time, so little > > to do... > > > > > wait, that's the wrong quote...). > > > > > > > > The same functionality can be found in the java package (look at > > authsub > > > > > util), and there are some people here in the group who are > > building > > > > > professional/paid services based on those classes. > > > > > > > > I am not sure right now if the java tar comes with an authsub > > sample, i > > > > > thought it did? A pretty elaborated one, that shows the complete > > process. > > > > > > > > Frank > > > > > > > > On 1/27/07, MatchBook <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Frank, > > > > > > > > > Regarding the documentation, I believe it was this line: > > > > > > > > > "Note that the authentication system we're using here (known as > > > > > > "Google > > > > > > Authentication for Installed Applications") is appropriate only > > for > > > > > > use > > > > > > in installed client applications such as desktop clients, not > > for use > > > > > > in web applications. For more information about authentication, > > see > > > > > > the > > > > > > Google Account Authentication documentation." > > > > > > > > > Because the examples shown for web applications are using http > > calls > > > > > > to > > > > > > show authentication, I got the impression that I had to generate > > and > > > > > > receive http calls to do web-based authentication. Are there > > api > > > > > > examples of performing web authentication? > > > > > > > > > I guess I also had an idea that this web-based authentication > > might > > > > > > take place on the client. In such cases, am I wrong in assuming > > that > > > > > > the Java API could not work? > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > On Jan 26, 2:25 am, "Frank Mantek" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Your initial impression is mistaken. You can use he java api > > easily > > > > > > to > > > > > > > develop a web application. You have then the choice of using > > > > > > client-login > > > > > > > (which is the stand alone application login) - which is an ok > > choice > > > > > > if you > > > > > > > just want to display your own data. Or, you use authentication > > for > > > > > > web > > > > > > > applications, which is fully supported by the java libraries. > > > > > > > > > > Of course, you are free to choose PHP (zend) or some of the > > other > > > > > > available > > > > > > > user libraries for Pearl/Python etc, but I am not familiar > > enough > > > > > > with those > > > > > > > to give you any advice which one to use. > > > > > > > > > > For curiosity, and to improve our online documentation, which > > part > > > > > > of the > > > > > > > documents your read lead you to believe that this is only > > suitable > > > > > > for > > > > > > > client applications? > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Frank Mantek > > > > > > > Google > > > > > > > > > > On 1/25/07, MatchBook < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I am interested in developing a web site that talks to > > Google > > > > > > services. > > > > > > > > I have acquainted myself with the help online, and I have > > played > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > the Java examples. But as I understand it, the Java API can > > only > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > used in a stand-alone application. Because I am interested > > in > > > > > > making a > > > > > > > > web site, this won't do. > > > > > > > > > > > So, I am interested in people's opinions about what > > development > > > > > > > > environment, language, etc. that is most helpful to build a > > > > > > website > > > > > > > > that can interact with Google services. This means, I > > think, an > > > > > > > > environment that is nimble with sending and receiving url > > > > > > requests. > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help! > > > > > > > > > > > Jeff- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted > > text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Data API" group. 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