Hi

I am also not sure if it is possible to use static map API + GPS
positioning markers on paid iphone app, with out violating ToS.

Please explain how it is possible to use static map API in paid iphone
applications.
I will have webservice which will provide map service for free, but it
will be possible to see additional GPS-based  information via iphone
app.

Thank you in advance.

Regards, Alex Borodich

On 23 нояб, 11:39, variable <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am aware of the technical issues with using the maps api on theiphone.
>
> I am trying to get my head around the new google ToS as they relate to
> theiphone. (I have read various recent threads on them.)
>
> In particular this one:
>
> <snip>
> 10.4 charge users or any other third party any fee for the use of the
> Maps API Implementation, the Service, or the Content, unless you have
> entered into a separate written agreement with Google or obtained
> Google's written permission to do so (but if you are a consultant who
> creates or hosts Maps API Implementations for third party customers,
> you may charge such customers a fee for your consulting or hosting
> services);
> </snip>
>
> 1) As I understand it, (and I may be wrong) wrapping the url of a maps
> implementation up in objective-c (to allow touch pan/zoom support) is
> no longer illegal (?)  (The url is additionally accessible from any
> webbrowser, the objective-c wrapper still parses it through what is
> basically webkit...)
>
> 2) One can't charge for such an app - it - it would have to be a free
> app at theiphonestore.
>
> Question: if one built a second, paid app that additionally made theiphoneGPS 
> available to JS (hence one could plot one's position on the
> map), could one sell that?
>
> This lat/lng one would pass in is arguably "Your content" in the
> language of the ToS
>
> <snip>
> 7.1
> (c) "Maps API Implementation" means a software application or website
> that uses the Maps APIs to obtain and display Content in conjunction
> with Your Content, according to these Terms.
> </snip>
>
> On the face of it, it looks like "your content" is part of the "Maps
> API Implementation" and 10.4 rules it out....
>
> If it IS still illegal - which the above suggests..., is it the case
> that ANY paidiPhoneapp, no matter how much non-Google maps
> functionality it has, must be free if it shows a google map, however
> small that is an element of its overall functionality?
>
> In case any one is interested, the motivation for these questions is
> that theiphoneGoogle Maps  app shows the Japanese tile version, not
> the English tile version and I want to knock up a decent offering with
> a Japanese map showing the English tiles.
>
> I then want to offer English language lookup of Japanese addresess on
> to it, which I can do, but google still can't - with proper ToSch pan/
> zoom.
>
> But I do need at least some prospect of a revenue stream as
> diddlefinger.com is operated essentially as a public service (adsense
> does not make much and is not really suited to theiphonein any
> case...) and is much used by overseas residents of Japan. At least
> until google provide full address support in English here....
>
> V.
>
> Ps.
>
> > unless you have entered into a separate written agreement with Google
>
> Has anyone ever done this?

On 23 нояб, 11:39, variable <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am aware of the technical issues with using the maps api on theiphone.
>
> I am trying to get my head around the new google ToS as they relate to
> theiphone. (I have read various recent threads on them.)
>
> In particular this one:
>
> <snip>
> 10.4 charge users or any other third party any fee for the use of the
> Maps API Implementation, the Service, or the Content, unless you have
> entered into a separate written agreement with Google or obtained
> Google's written permission to do so (but if you are a consultant who
> creates or hosts Maps API Implementations for third party customers,
> you may charge such customers a fee for your consulting or hosting
> services);
> </snip>
>
> 1) As I understand it, (and I may be wrong) wrapping the url of a maps
> implementation up in objective-c (to allow touch pan/zoom support) is
> no longer illegal (?)  (The url is additionally accessible from any
> webbrowser, the objective-c wrapper still parses it through what is
> basically webkit...)
>
> 2) One can't charge for such an app - it - it would have to be a free
> app at theiphonestore.
>
> Question: if one built a second, paid app that additionally made theiphoneGPS 
> available to JS (hence one could plot one's position on the
> map), could one sell that?
>
> This lat/lng one would pass in is arguably "Your content" in the
> language of the ToS
>
> <snip>
> 7.1
> (c) "Maps API Implementation" means a software application or website
> that uses the Maps APIs to obtain and display Content in conjunction
> with Your Content, according to these Terms.
> </snip>
>
> On the face of it, it looks like "your content" is part of the "Maps
> API Implementation" and 10.4 rules it out....
>
> If it IS still illegal - which the above suggests..., is it the case
> that ANY paidiPhoneapp, no matter how much non-Google maps
> functionality it has, must be free if it shows a google map, however
> small that is an element of its overall functionality?
>
> In case any one is interested, the motivation for these questions is
> that theiphoneGoogle Maps  app shows the Japanese tile version, not
> the English tile version and I want to knock up a decent offering with
> a Japanese map showing the English tiles.
>
> I then want to offer English language lookup of Japanese addresess on
> to it, which I can do, but google still can't - with proper ToSch pan/
> zoom.
>
> But I do need at least some prospect of a revenue stream as
> diddlefinger.com is operated essentially as a public service (adsense
> does not make much and is not really suited to theiphonein any
> case...) and is much used by overseas residents of Japan. At least
> until google provide full address support in English here....
>
> V.
>
> Ps.
>
> > unless you have entered into a separate written agreement with Google
>
> Has anyone ever done this?

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