On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:54 AM, bratliff <[email protected]> wrote:

> The group interface is clobbering URLs.


What is a "group interface"?


>  The following link is an
> example:
>
>    www.polyarc.us/sparse
>
> Tile server reliability seems to have deteriorated recently.  Some
> tiles never arrive.


This would be a serious issue.  I have loaded your site in FF3.5.5/WinXP and
panned around for a while.  I wasn't able to replicate the issue you
describe even after loading hundreds of tiles.  Which browser are you using?


>  Switching from/to the same zoom level does not
> force reloading.


If tiles load as expected, there should be no need to forcibly reload.


>  Examining the DOM, the tile slot contains a
> "transparent.png" place holder rather than an actual tile image.  The
> only way to load the tile is to reload the application.
>

Thanks for the info: that seems to imply the tile 'onload' never fired.  I'm
not able to replicate this issue locally (perhaps I have a high bandwidth or
reliable connection).  If you could grab a screenshot and/or HTTP trace
showing that tiles load late or never, that would be really helpful.


> Perhaps the optimizer is being a bit too clever.  If the API thinks
> the tile is already loaded, it will not attempt to load it again.
> Well, I believe it is a horrible idea.  If the tile is already loaded,
> it will be served quickly enough from the browser cache.  If the tile
> never arrived, it ought to be requested again.  Every zoom change
> ought to reload every tile.  A slight delay is preferrable to an
> incomplete map.
>
> It is unclear why "transparent.png" is even being used.  If it is to
> disguise progressive rendering, it can be achieved in the onload/
> onerror event handlers with "this.style.display" or
> "this.style.visibility".  The use of a "background-image" is another
> option.
>
> A "watchdog" thread might improve reliability.  Periodically, it could
> look for lazy tiles.  If a tile has exceeded a resonable waiting
> period, the request could be reissued.
>
>    this.src=this.src;
>
> will do the trick.
>
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