APT is missing mostly whole-world kind of informations in TypeOracle (e.g.
getAllSubTypes) but perhaps this is also advantage and that is why it help
the compiler to scale better :) Also looking at the usages
of getAllSubTypes it is not like a major deal if we replace GWT-RPC with
something that is more DTO centric.

I can't remember the discussion from the meet-up, I wonder if there were
any other issues brought up there?

On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Ray Cromwell <[email protected]>wrote:

> I don't think APT is good enough. Java8 has a compiler plugin API for
> code-gen that might work. APT has limitations that make it problematic to
> replace generators. Stephen Haberman brought this up at the GWT meetup.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Goktug Gokdogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I think in the long-run we should separate the two concepts that is being
> tackled by GWT.create today.
>
> First purpose is the class replacement, especially used by permutations. I
> think this one should not have anything to do with GWT.create. We can do
> any class replacement in compiler without requiring a call to GWT.create.
> This is similar to super-sourcing and can be solved similar and perhaps
> together.
>
> Second purpose is for triggering generators and what most of the proposal
> are about.
>
> As Roberto and perhaps others have been bringing up, it is best to follow
> regular java code generation practices in GWT.
>
> That means for the long-term we can mostly rely on AnnotationProcessors.
> There are many advantages of that:
>   1. Not GWT only - continue sharing code with server (JRE), client(GWT)
> and mobile(Android).
>   2. IDE support: IDE can trigger codegen (esp. for debugging)
>   3. Parallelizing the compilation and ease moving from JDT into java 8
> compiler plugin.
>   4. Reusing knowledge from java world and lower the barrier for entry to
> generators.
>
>
> With that move, deferred binding definition for code generator can be just
> about providing the naming conventions such as "<class_name>
> -> <class_name>$Generated".
> Based on the rule, when the compiler sees GWT.create(A.class), it can be
> turned into "new A$Generated()" and expect the generated code to be there.
>
> The reason I'm bringing this up is; for any proposal I think it is best to
> keep it feasible w.r.t this aspect and not push us into a corner for the
> long run.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Brian Slesinsky <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> Hi, I've published a document [1] with my thoughts on some of the
> GWT.create() proposals. This doesn't cover everything we've discussed but I
> think it's a start. If you're on this mailing list you should be able to
> comment.
>
> - Brian
>
> [1]
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MDqiBEMl7dylYliAceLBBxGFAlSvkQB9b-kSlnKmZBk/edit?disco=AAAAAGXMcRI#
>
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