I'm eager to start using Java 8 too, but I think we should wait until we
have Java 8 committed (behind a flag) before having the discussion about
whether to require it for anything. As we've found with incremental
compile, sometimes we end up changing direction a bit to reach our goal, so
there's not much point in having policy discussions before the mechanism is
there.



On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 9:41 AM, 'Ray Cromwell' via GWT Contributors <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I think the IDL->DOM generation stuff will be the easy part since the API
> is driven by the IDL. The more tricky (likely to bikeshed) stuff I think is
> modeling all of the ES5 APIs that back everything.  e.g. JsObject, JsArray,
> etc.
>
> I somewhat like the old Elemental interfaces (ArrayOf, MapFromStringTo...)
> at a high level for allowing shared code to continue to work, but at a
> lower level, we need basic interfaces that let you write anything you could
> write in JS, like
>
> JsObject.hasOwnProperty(), JsObject.keys(), JsObject.defineProperty(), etc
>
> My goal would be to minimize the need to drop to JS snippets to as small
> as possible. But we won't be able to do it perfectly (e.g. dealing with
> statics and overloads), and so the workarounds will be where the debate is.
> :)
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 9:33 AM, 'Goktug Gokdogan' via GWT Contributors <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 5:29 AM, Cristian Rinaldi <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks +Goktug Gokdogan for response.
>>>
>>> APT is very good option and java 8 support for GWT 3.0 would be a
>>> amazing thing.
>>> You have a planning for Elemental 2.0 or initial documentation to share,
>>> to how you plan address the desing?
>>>
>>>
>> Nothing planned yet other than the plan to work on it :) My anticipation
>> is. initially we will auto generate JsTyped DOM, deal with problems and
>> incrementally improve it.
>>
>>
>>> El miércoles, 20 de agosto de 2014 16:38:31 UTC-3, Goktug Gokdogan
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 6:17 AM, Cristian Rinaldi <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Community:
>>>>>      I'm playing with JsInterop , and I have two questions:
>>>>>
>>>>>      1) Are you planning to try the static methods of JS objects, such
>>>>> as Object, Promise, etc.?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There will be some static helpers provided from the SDK. I originally
>>>> started the JSNI 2.0 document but it is basically waiting for me to start
>>>> on Elemental 2.0 and accumulate more experience to turn it into something
>>>> more concrete.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>      2) How do when an instance is mapped to an existing Object, eg
>>>>> Promise, has a constructor with parameters?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually I have new ideas on this derived from how some other APTs work.
>>>>
>>>> I need to update the JsInterop doc but these are the options that I'm
>>>> thinking right now:
>>>>
>>>> *Option 1 (works better for extending):*
>>>>
>>>> @JsType(prototype = "Promise")public interface Promise {
>>>>   /* Protoype_Promise is an autogenerated package visible class */
>>>>   public static class Prototype extends Protoype_Promise {
>>>>     public Prototype(Function... functions) {
>>>>        super(functions);
>>>>     }
>>>>   }
>>>>
>>>>   void then(Function f);
>>>>
>>>>   void cath(Function f);
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Option 2 (works better for general use):*
>>>>
>>>> @JsType(prototype = "Promise")public interface Promise {
>>>>   /* Protoype_Promise is an autogenerated package visible class */
>>>>   public static Promise create(Function... functions) {
>>>>      return new Protoype_Promise(functions);
>>>>   }
>>>>
>>>>   void then(Function f);
>>>>
>>>>   void cath(Function f);
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Of course one can do both:*
>>>>
>>>> @JsType(prototype = "Promise")public interface Promise {
>>>>
>>>>   public static class Prototype extends Protoype_Promise {
>>>>     public Prototype(Function... functions) {
>>>>        super(functions);
>>>>     }
>>>>   }
>>>>
>>>>   public static Promise create(Function... functions) {
>>>>      return new Prototype(functions);
>>>>   }
>>>>
>>>>   void then(Function f);
>>>>
>>>>   void cath(Function f);
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>     Currently to resolve this 1) I created the following class
>>>>> Factory: JS
>>>>> <https://github.com/workingflows/gwt-jscore/blob/master/src/main/java/com/workingflows/js/jscore/client/factory/JS.java>
>>>>>
>>>>>     But the interfaces define a contract at the level instance of a
>>>>> class or object, this way of doing things, I do not know if it is
>>>>> semantically correct.
>>>>>
>>>>>    To solve 2) there are not many options:
>>>>>
>>>>>      Create a Factory that returns an instance of the object, because
>>>>> it has no meaning, only to make the new, implement the interface, because
>>>>> the compiler already does.
>>>>>      There is some progress in this?
>>>>>
>>>>>      I saw in one of the post a proposal to do something like this:
>>>>>
>>>>>      Promise Promise.Prototype p = new (new Function ....., new
>>>>> Function ....);
>>>>>
>>>>>     Where Promise, is the interface defined with prototype =
>>>>> "Promise".
>>>>>
>>>>>     @JsType(isNative = true, prototype = "Promise")
>>>>>     public interface Promise {
>>>>>
>>>>>       void then(Function f);
>>>>>
>>>>>       void cath(Function f);
>>>>>   }
>>>>>
>>>>>     Here 'access to jsCore project:
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://github.com/workingflows/gwt-jscore/
>>>>> <https://github.com/workingflows/gwt-jscore/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Great work. This kind of stuff is also very valuable as a feedback.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I hope the answers ...
>>>>>
>>>>> greetings
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