I was thinking about this a little more, and threw around a couple
ideas where "it would be nice" to break a monolithic-at-runtime
application into runtime modules (analagous to breaking an .exe into a
bunch of .dll's).

How much javascript can a browser deal with?  If there's some maximum
size an application can reach before a browser has problems using it,
it'd be nice to break the application into runtime chunks and bring
them in as needed.

Administration screens -- I don't bundle admin functionality into an
app, but it would be nice, based on user permissions, to just add the
Admin panel to the application.  Instead, it's a whole separate app
(not that big of a deal, really).

Anyway, although I said just make a monolithic application as I
believe it's the right thing most of the time, not knowing if there's
an application size upper-limit size makes me wonder.


On Nov 4, 3:30 pm, walden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brian,
>
> I think it should be made clear that GWT Modules are reuse packagings,
> just like Java classes, and don't even imply a runtime application
> architecture.  The only reason for breaking code into Modules is to
> reuse it by inheritance rather than duplicating code.
>
> Walden
>
> On Nov 4, 11:58 am, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Err, "size and speed were increased by keeping it in one app" should
> > have read, "size was decreased, speed was increased by keeping all the
> > modules in one app."
>
> > On Nov 4, 11:56 am, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > I wanted to do something similar to having a bunch of independent
> > > modules interacting on a page, but gave up, and stuck with the
> > > monolithic app.  I think you really need to analyze if it's worth
> > > breaking up the app into modules and trying to work with all this glue
> > > you'll need.  For instance, there's quite an overhead in size for just
> > > a hello,world gwt app.  You'll be paying this overhead for each
> > > module.  Also, once the monolitic app is cached by the browser, it's
> > > there until cleared, so there's basically no penalty for having the
> > > app on multiple pages, even if it's not used "that much" (ie, not all
> > > modules are visible). Also, you can break up your monolitic app so you
> > > only create the classes needed in the given state, so you don't eat up
> > > memory for modules you're not displaying, etc, etc.  It just ended up
> > > not making sense to break up the app --
>
> > > What are the advantages to breaking the app into modules?  Size?
> > > Speed?  In my case, size and speed were increased by keeping it all in
> > > one app, and relying on browser caching.
>
> > > On Nov 4, 9:50 am, Thomas Broyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > On 4 nov, 13:11, walden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Joe,
>
> > > > > You don't need DOM events, per se.  Use Observer Pattern.  Your Login
> > > > > module doesn't need to know who's subscribed.  It just needs to
> > > > > implement the Observable interface (register listeners, fire login
> > > > > state change events).  Your other modules are in fact dependent upon
> > > > > Login.  They need to know how to register listeners, receive events,
> > > > > recognize Login events, and then I would suggest you let them probe
> > > > > the Login module directly for login state.
>
> > > > > If you look at how ChangeListener and SourcesChangeEvents work in GWT,
> > > > > there are all the elements of the Observer pattern you need, and you
> > > > > can copy that.
>
> > > > Walden, he has and wants (and needs?) distinct *applications* (not
> > > > only distinct *modules*), Java-GWT is not an option here.
>
> > > > @Joe: you'll have to implement such an observer/observable pattern in
> > > > pure JavaScript in your host page, and use JSNI in your applications
> > > > to register handlers/fire events.- Hide quoted text -
>
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