On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 3:27 PM, David <[email protected]> wrote:

> I noticed Vaadin TouchKit is a Apache licensed open source project. If I
> want to develop a mobile application, should I use TouchKit or Vaadin GWT
> polymer elements? I do appreciate your feedback about how to develop mobile
> application using Vaadin technology.
>

Right now you need TouchKit in Vaadin 8.0, until polymer is stable in a new
version of Vaadin. Keep tuned.

- Manolo


>
> David
>
> On Saturday, April 22, 2017 at 12:28:26 PM UTC-4, Manuel Carrasco wrote:
>>
>> You are right Nándor, Vaadin is going to replace our current widgetset by
>> polymer based elements.
>>
>> One of the ways we explored in our labs is to wrap every single polymer
>> element with a GWT Widget or Element, and this is the reason we published
>> the gwt-polymer-elements. Additionally we explored other ways such as
>> direct usage of webcomponents directly from the Vaadin server side. And
>> even we explored in our labs how to use polymer in other platforms like
>> Angular, etc.
>>
>> As I mentioned in my first email Vaadin main motivation on doing that is
>> leaving framework communities lead their integration with polymer, and
>> Vaadin Elements UI Team to focus on delivering polymer Components.
>>
>> So the strategy of Vaadin is that our widgetset uses standards so as it
>> can be used in any platform including our Vaadin Framework. It is not
>> happening currently because our framework widgetset is only usable from
>> vaadin, even it cannot be used from GWT.
>>
>> Said that, this does not mean that Vaadin is abandoning GWT, we just want
>> to use webcomponents standards for the UI part of the Vaadin Framework, so
>> as it can be used at the same time in any framework and we can obtain more
>> feedback to improve them. Obviously, since Vaadin is an open-source
>> Company, our polymer elements are Apache licensed.
>>
>> Additionally, Vaadin indirectly support gwt-polymer-elements since we can
>> still use our Company time  aka 'Community Friday' to collaborate with the
>> project. But Vaadin thinks that it should be owned by the GWT community,
>> because they are the best to contribute with ideas and to feature it.
>>
>> Thank you
>> - Manolo
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Nándor Előd Fekete <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Manuel,
>>>
>>> wasn't Vaadin going into the direction of migrating it's client side
>>> components to web components in the Vaadin Framework itself? If not, can
>>> you shed some light on the motivation behind the decision?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 21, 2017 at 9:10:06 PM UTC+2, Manuel Carrasco wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> From today, Vaadin has transferred the ownership of the
>>>> gwt-polymer-elements and gwt-api-generator libraries to me.
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/manolo/gwt-polymer-elements/
>>>> https://github.com/manolo/gwt-api-generator/
>>>>
>>>> Vaadin decision is based on encouraging communities to maintain polymer
>>>> bridges for their favourites frameworks, hence Vaadin can focus their
>>>> efforts on delivering high quality UI elements made in Polymer. It also
>>>> happened recently with the Angular2Polymer bridge.
>>>>
>>>> I will design a roadmap for the next months.
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking for contributors so let me know who is interested on any
>>>> matter: coding, testing, reporting, answering, etc, and I will grant access
>>>> to the repos.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> - Manolo
>>>>
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