GWT is just a toolkit. You can do whatever you want. Big applications
without good arch seems always be a developers nightmare eventually. So I
think problem anywhere but not in the toolkit.

P.S. It is really hard to find your questions in text. Maybe its a good idea
to list them?

2010/1/13 Hugh Acland <[email protected]>

> Hi,
>
> I have been experimenting with GWT for a few weeks now and am very
> impressed. Especially with 2.0 and now that Netbeans plugin is fully
> functional. Works like a treat! However, I have yet to pin down
> exactly what GWT should be used for. As far as I can tell it is
> primarily for building rich internet <b>applications</b> which will be
> made available to subscribers through the ubiquitous browser and most
> often through secure logon. I can see the power of using GWT in this
> way.
>
> For the past few years I have been quick to ridicule anyone who wanted
> to build web-apps for use in a browser. Anything more complicated than
> the most basic application soon became a complete nightmare to
> implement and sometimes actually functionally impossible. I wrote one
> such app for a client who wanted the 'user experience' to be as good
> as a standard desktop VB/Swing application. It didn't matter how much
> I protested, my pay cheque was dependent upon me complying with his
> wish. So I hacked together a really nasty bunch of Servlets with a
> gazillion 'out.write('<br>...html, html, html </br>')' lines. The
> whole thing was really, really grubby and a real pain to maintain.
>
> Now some might say that I could have used JSP/JSF/tags blah blah but
> seriously?!! I love Java and all things J2EE except for the God-awful
> presentation layer. It is unnatural. It is freakish hell. So GWT comes
> along and looks just the ticket! So am I right in saying that GWT
> should not be used for mickey-mouse JS? And that it really is intended
> for serious hard-core browser-based apps - which may also have a
> standard desktop version running off the same server business logic?
>
> One other thing. I have fallen in love with a project called Ape (Ajax
> Push Engine) - www.ape-project.org To me, all my dreams will have come
> true if I can integrate Ape into a GWT-based web-app. I can already
> hear the cash tills ringing as this is the ultimate missing brick in
> true browser-based applications. Has anyone managed to get the two
> playing nicely together? Wouldn't it be so cool to have a real time
> update (pushed) data into a GWT (or ExtJS) grid? That would really
> float my boat so I would love to hear if this has been achieved yet..
>
> Thanks for reading and if you can I would welcome answers and comments
> Cheers
> Hugh
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