yeah, those guys in google knows what they do :) On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Chris Lercher <[email protected]>wrote:
> Ok, on closer inspection, the author of the HTML comment is right, and > I'm wrong. While I'd say that the usual way to set a browser to quirks > mode is to omit the DOCTYPE declaration, the DOCTYPE in the HTML file > also leads to quirks mode (because it omits the concrete DTD location, > so it's effectively an invalid Doctype declaration). This is even > shown in the table at the bottom of the link I posted: > http://hsivonen.iki.fi/doctype/ > > So all is good, GWT 1.7 projects were in quirks mode by default, and > the documentation is correct. > > > On Feb 19, 2:56 pm, Chris Lercher <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks, I know, and I do (for GWT 2.0). The question is more targeted > > at the documentation, which says, we shouldn't use some of the old > > layout elements anymore (e.g. StackPanel), because they don't work > > well in standards mode. > > > > http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/doc/latest/DevGuideUiPanels.html > > (Section "Moving to Standards Mode") > > > > But if it's the case that most GWT 1.7 applications never used quirks > > mode anyway (because WebAppCreator by default created a HTML file in > > "Almost Standards" mode), then I don't understand that, because the > > differences between "Almost Standards" and "Standards" aren't very > > big, or are they? > > > > In any case, the comment in the HTML file, that "HTML 4.01 > > Transitional DOCTYPE" triggers quirks mode doesn't seem to be correct. > > Quirks mode is quite different from (Almost) Standards mode. > > > > On Feb 19, 2:46 pm, Alexander Arendar <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Chris, > > > > > you better use the strict mode: > > > !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC > > > "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" > > > "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd";> > > > > > That would benefit since new GWT layout panels are optimized for the > strict > > > mode. > > > > > Sincerely, > > > Alex > > > > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Chris Lercher <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I just had a look at a html page generated by GWT 1.7, and was > > > > wondering about this: > > > > > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> > > > > <!-- The HTML 4.01 Transitional DOCTYPE declaration--> > > > > <!-- above set at the top of the file will set --> > > > > <!-- the browser's rendering engine into --> > > > > <!-- "Quirks Mode". Replacing this declaration --> > > > > <!-- with a "Standards Mode" doctype is supported, --> > > > > <!-- but may lead to some differences in layout. --> > > > > > > GWT 1.7 was made for quirks mode, as far as I remember. But HTML 4.01 > > > > Transitional isn't quirks mode. For all I know, this is called > "Almost > > > > Standards mode", which is very close to "Standards mode", except > > > > mainly for images. > > > > > > Seehttp://hsivonen.iki.fi/doctype/ (Section "Choosing a Doctype") > > > > andhttp://www.quirksmode.org/css/quirksmode.html > > > > > > So I wonder: Is this incorrect in the generated HTML page, or are the > > > > GWT docs actually always talking about "Almost Standards mode", when > > > > they say, that certain things before GWT 2.0 were designed for > "Quirks > > > > mode"? Or maybe the information in my links is wrong? > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > > "Google Web Toolkit" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > [email protected]<google-web-toolkit%[email protected]><google-web-toolkit%2Bunsubs > [email protected]> > > > > . > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google Web Toolkit" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<google-web-toolkit%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
