This open source book can also help you.

http://code.google.com/p/gwt-gae-book/

It is not up to date, it's on my todo list to update it and contribute to it
by the end of october.

Cheers,

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Matthew Cote <mcjavalear...@gmail.com>wrote:

> wow, thanks a lot for all that, I got to head out so I can't digest atm but
> the sheer volume of advise here is incredible, gtg but Im gonna write back
> later. thanks
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Aidan O'Kelly <aida...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, if you've reached a point where you want to do stuff, that there
>> are no step-by-step tutorials for, you need to stop looking for
>> tutorials, and starting looking at reference material, ie, API
>> documentation, or documents/tutorials/papers on a specific technology.
>>
>> You've touched upon it in your post, but GWT and App Engine are very
>> separate, and very different things. That the App Engine has a Java
>> runtime for you to run server-side code in, and that GWT compiles Java
>> to client-side code, is convenient, in that you stay in one language,
>> but that's all. Now, they DO make a good match, as they are both very
>> good at what they do (GWT on client-side, App-Engine on server-side)
>> but they are very different beasts, so you can't really 'apply
>> app-engine tutorials to GWT'.
>>  What you can do is, use them on App Engine, and then use the result
>> to power your GWT app. You might want to read up on the HTTP protocol,
>> Web Services / REST architecture, if you haven't already, as these are
>> the core protocols used to make your GWT app talk to your App Engine
>> back-end.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure you understand that, but its important to have a clear
>> idea of your 'software stack'. What each component is, what it can &
>> can't do, what its responsible for. Perhaps make some toy projects
>> that only use App Engine(serving up static HTML), or only use GWT, to
>> get a better idea of where the separation is. (This works for any
>> other components/libraries you add later, it can be good to test them
>> in isolation before using them in tandem with other pieces of
>> software)
>>
>> Just a quick note on OpenID.. I dont know it that well, I looked at
>> the specs a few years ago, and will be again soon, but unless you
>> really really need it, its probably best to stick with the Google
>> Authentication API at first, as its stable and a LOT less complicated
>> to get right.
>>
>> Hope this helps, my main point is, API References/User Guides/Protocol
>> Specs  are your friends, when no-one has made a tutorial for a
>> specific case.
>> Good luck,
>> Aidan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Matthew Cote <mcjavalear...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I am sure there are numerous reasons why you would use the GWT without
>> > the app engine, but I am primarily interested in writing app engine
>> > apps with the GWT - there is a annoying division of tutorials and
>> > documentation regarding GWT and the Google App Engine. In the Google
>> > App Engine site there are tutorials for OpenID, OAuth, and the like, I
>> > cannot find a decent step by step tutorial for using OpenID with GWT.
>> >
>> > I would really like to see more tutorials for the GWT - especially on
>> > OpenID, but also - how to play audio, how to use the data store with
>> > GWT, Single Sign-On, etc I guess what it comes down to is - How can I
>> > apply the tutorials in App Engine Documentation to the GWT? Can the
>> > GWT or App Engine doc site include an explanation of how the two work
>> > together or how they relate - I want to use the GWT because it makes
>> > writing client-side code very easy for me, I want to use the App
>> > Engine because it makes deployment very easy for me. I want to use the
>> > two together.
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