Thomas, Thanks for your comments, very nsightful. It was not my intention to compare jsp/appengime to gwt but rather to the RPC portion of gwt .
With appengine I have the flexibility of many of ux approaches., but now I am excited about creating a services based approach to my product giving the flexibility of different client side solution on the same core logic. However it was easier to ramp my team up and keep them motivated in the tech, with gwt I too felt the Google wave pinch! We will see, thanks On Jul 6, 2012 6:54 PM, "Thomas Broyer" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Saturday, July 7, 2012 1:46:24 AM UTC+2, Murray wrote: >> >> Thomas, >> >> The uncertainty spooks me just a little, since the rumors started I have >> been going over in my head what >> It would take to retool my existing app to a >> Jsp/appengine app, and so far I like what I am thinking, especially given >> the new Rest features announced at IO. >> >> What are your thoughts on appengine vs gwt, to be honest I trust Google >> more than the community. >> > To me, comparing JSP/AppEngine with GWT is like comparing Ruby on Rails > with jQuery (minus the GWT-RPC/RequestFactory features/protocols). > GWT is a client-side tool, JSP/AppEngine is a server-side platform, > they're not comparable. > > All the apps I've made or seen made with GWT could have been done with > something else (jQuery, Closure, etc. on the client-side; Java, .NET, > Rails, PHP, etc. on the server-side). GWT is just a tool, it definitely > *is* replaceable. The difference will be the level of tooling, and your > tastes. Technically, GMail could have been built with GWT, just like Groups > could have been built with Closure. > > Given the "spring cleanings" and pricing changes done by Google on their > services and APIs, I'm not sure they're that much worried about "saving > face" and fainting they're not abandoning GWT if that's what they actually > do (they invested during 5 years before Wave was made public, they had > partners who started building business around Wave, and they shut it down > after 2 years with no replacement –Apache Wave is far from providing all > that Google Wave had– they could very well have announced that they'd > switch to another tool for their apps at the time they announced they'll > close their Atlanta offices, that'd have been the perfect timing). Of > course I could be wrong; I pray I'm not (there are many signs of health for > "GWT at Google" though, despite the recent hard blows). > > If you think you'd better switch to something else, go with it; GWT is not > a one-size-fits-all tool, such a thing does not exist. > > As for the Google Cloud Endpoints; they look really great, and yes, go > with it if your needs and requirements fit their constraints. Otherwise, > well, I bet there will be equivalents that are not tied to AppEngine, > and/or with other features or constraints. These are inspired by JAX-RS, or > RequestFactory, or SOAP, with slightly different characteristics (generates > JS and ObjC clients contrary to the Java-centric approach of > RequestFactory, but without batching and "identity" –EntityProxy–, with > JSON discovery contrary to SOAP's WSDL, but similarly to Swagger or > Flatpack). > And if you wonder, there will probably be a Google Cloud Endpoint client > for GWT, if not already, as https://code.google.com/apis/console/ and > https://developers.google.com/apis-explorer/#p/ are GWT apps. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google Web Toolkit" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/r_3akFDq3ZcJ. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
