On 20.02.13 06:59, Lukas Blakk wrote:
If the chair of the council is a rotating position, I am a bit concerned about module 
ownership churn.  Most of our module owners seem to get the position and then stay 
attached to their module(s) for a fairly long time.  Of course we are welcome to 
experiment, and Mozilla Reps is a pretty unique program, but reading Gerv's statement 
makes me have a bit of a knee-jerk reaction, wanting more continuity than "the 
current chair" if that position rotates often and I'm not sure what that would look 
like.  Perhaps the current and most recent former chair so that there's some coverage 
from the past at the same time?
I had a similar reaction when the reps program proposed the current mode of operations for the council. But I consider that to be a purposeful decision on behalf of the reps program itself.

I'm wondering if the council needs to be reflected as a module at all. Maybe the following is a closer description of reality?

Make the council as a group a peer of the reps module. As-a-group would mean that as it's elected and makes decisions. The individual members of the council wouldn't have a role in the module ownership per se, aside of overlap in individuals.

Axel

-Lukas


On Feb 19, 2013, at 4:46 AM, William Quiviger <[email protected]> wrote:

On Feb 19, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Axel Hecht <[email protected]> wrote:

On 19.02.13 11:45, Gervase Markham wrote:
The Mozilla Reps program is not covered by the module owner system; we'd
like to propose some new Activities Modules to cover it. The proposed
module descriptions are here:

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Modules/Mozilla_Reps

We've done something a bit unusual, in that there is not a named module
owner for the Mozilla Reps Council. The chair of the council is a
rotating position among the members, both employee and volunteer. So we
decided to propose specifying the module owner as "the current chair of
the council". We would want to specify a way of finding out who it was.
By similar logic, the peers are "all the other council members".

Please do comment.

Gerv

In which situations would I talk to reps module owner/peers and in which to the 
reps council?
The Reps module owner/peers oversee the general health of the program and makes 
sure that the Council is doing its job. If you have a   very general question 
or concern about the program as a whole and how it fits within the Mozilla 
project, you would contact the Reps module owner/peers.

The Reps Council module owner/peers oversee the day to day of the program, 
manage Mozilla Reps Mentors, represents Mozilla Reps and serves as an advisory 
body within the Mozilla organization. The module owner/peers change regularly 
with the Mozilla Reps 6-month election cycle.  If you have a specific question 
related to the program's governance structure, finances, day-to-day management, 
then you would ask the Reps Council module owner/peers.

Also, in which situations would I talk to the mentors owner/peers and in which 
to the council?
The Reps Mentors module owner/peers look after the Mozilla Reps program's 
mentorship base. Mentors on-board new applicants, look after and mentor Reps, 
monitor their activities and help them grow in the program.

If you have a question related to what Mozilla Reps do and how they are 
supported (eg. resources, tools, materials etc..), you should ask the Reps 
Mentor module owner/peers.

Right now, there's a good deal of overlap in individuals, so the questions are 
mutually exclusive, but as we codify them, I wonder if we can get this more 
crisp.
I agree. Thanks for the feedback. I'll work with the Council and Gerv to make 
the text a bit crisper.

William

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Mozilla Reps Council Chair
https://reps.mozilla.org/u/wquiviger/

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