Hi Fred,

 Hi, I'm a volunteer with Mozilla.  I volunteer teaching children
about the web at my children's school and in my community using tools
and cirriculum Mozilla has designed to make that possible  I put my
heart into it, I want my children and their generation to understand
the web is theirs to make, direct and innovate. I want technology to
be something they leverage for good, and the title of your email
breaks my heart because Mozilla has been a leading the way in these
efforts.

My volunteer work is not political, it's not left-wing, it's not
right-wing  it's just me trying to improve my community. I give back
to Mozilla, because I see the tremendous value in doing so. I cannot
offer you explanations or justifications for a governing group,  I
have no part in that.  But I can tell you there is a community that
cares a lot about what's happening, and about everyone impacted. I
want you to understand that 'Mozilla' is made up of thousands of
people just like me.  We're nothing like Microsoft was or is.



-Emma

On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Big Fred <[email protected]> wrote:
> Today I contacted three people that I had in the past convinced to switch 
> from IE or Chrome to FF. I persuaded them to uninstall FF because of your 
> culture of politically correct bigotry. After reading this list today, I 
> think I'll keep doing that as a hobby. Why? Because after the politically 
> correct witch hunt that resulted in Eich being out and radical gays being 
> appeased, all I see here are what come across as smug attempts to deflect 
> blame and just weather the storm. FF is the new IE, the boorish clod that 
> wants to just dissemble or stomp over any opposition in the style of Gates.
>
> Yes, I've seen the aggravatingly repetitive "Eich wasn't forced out, he quit" 
> replies which only come across as being deliberately misleading. The fact 
> will always remain that he is gone because radical gays wanted him gone over 
> his personal beliefs.
>
> There is also the disingenuous refusal to acknowledge that we live in a era 
> of politically correct witch hunts, which is why people are finally fed up. 
> This episode did not occur in a vacuum. Mozilla is Cracker Barrel part 2.
>
> There are the ever present double-standards of political correctness, such as 
> the calls in the moderation thread that any opposition to gay marriage should 
> be censored from this list. But in another thread, any employees who called 
> for Eich's purging should not suffer any negative consequences, because that 
> is presumably the good kind of intolerance on their part.
>
> Then we have the claims that Mozilla statements didn't mean what they said. 
> The chairwomans' statement that everyone reasonably interprets as "we're so 
> eagerly sorry that we didn't purge the intolerant bigot sooner" didn't really 
> mean that after all. Sure, sure... Since the tidal wave of negative backlash, 
> she makes no statement wanting to communicate on that, much less apologize on 
> that part of the 'community', does she? That makes her original meaning 
> doubly clear.
>
>
> Some particular examples:
>
> Here's a statement that merges two very wrong approaches: "On the one hand, 
> someone from Engagement should talk to the petitioners and explain that we 
> did not fire Brendan or coerce him to resign. On the other hand, if it's not 
> really affecting usage, is it worth it?  -Sheeri Cabral" So much for being 
> principled, huh? It's just a matter of what Mozilla can get away with after 
> all.
>
> Or this:
> "If I understand correctly what you write, you are changing browser
> because 4 employees of Mozilla have asked for the resignation of
> Brendan? Or am I misunderstanding?
>
> Best regards,
>  David "
>
> which comes across as condescendingly mocking.
>
> Then there are the inevitable "let's move on" exhortations because Mozilla is 
> the supposed great repository of fairness and equality and tolerance of 
> diverse speech. That's entirely laughable, considering that the CEO was just 
> purged to appease radical gays. (Sure, sure... he "volunteered to be purged!")
>
> But wait, Eich was also encouraged to accept a humiliating demotion, so that 
> makes everything all right. Then there's the outright falsehood that he's 
> still an active part of Mozilla.
>
> Through it all, while many, many thousands (and growing) are infuriated over 
> what happened, not one person from Mozilla is. Not from the top to the 
> bottom, none that have overtly said so anyway. Quite a disconnect.
>
> So keep fiddlling, Mozilla. People are coming to believe that you are even 
> less trustworthy than the deceptive spies of megacorporation google. You are 
> making enemies and enemies have a way of multiplying. That's the same maxim 
> that Micro$oft arrogantly ignored all those years ago.
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