Big Fred, I am sorry if you feel that my message was "condescendingly mocking", as you put it. Since you seem to be reading my messages, you probably realized that my intention was to try and understand better Tony's reasoning. Not everybody who comes to voice their concern here have the same understanding of the situation or the same feeling.
Now, I believe that we do not deserve your description of « the boorish clod that wants to just dissemble or stomp over any opposition in the style of Gates. » Brendan Eich left Mozilla. Nobody is going to pretend that he did this because he wanted to. However, it is my belief that Brendan left because he believed at the time that this was the best course of action for both him and Mozilla. This is one of several things that happened at Mozilla while both Mozilla as an organization and Brendan as an individual were being harassed as part of a media onslaught organized by OKCupid. Many of us believe that Mozilla took several bad decisions during this period. Many of us would have preferred if Brendan had stayed, either as CEO or as CTO (which, in fact if not in name, was his previous position). I am not going to spend time defending Mitchell's blog post – since it can be interpreted in two very different manners, one of them unacceptable, it clearly needs to be amended. I believe that the only reason why it hasn't been amended yet is that we want to make sure that we don't make things even worse, but this leaves us with a text that erodes our credibility. Do you someone at Mozilla to say that he is very disappointed about what happened? Here: I am *very* disappointed about what happened. However, I also believe that Mozilla is not the guilty party. We made mistakes, for sure, but Mozilla is one the victims here, alongside with Brendan. We have been the victim of an organized online attack and this attack leaves us without a CEO, without a CTO, without one of our co-founders. This attack, and Brendan's resignation, made us appear as an organization that could be bullied. The question is: what should we do now? How do we get back up? If you have ideas, this is the right place to discuss them. Best regards, David On 10/04/14 04:34, Big Fred wrote: > Today I contacted three people that I had in the past convinced to switch > from IE or Chrome to FF. I persuaded them to uninstall FF because of your > culture of politically correct bigotry. After reading this list today, I > think I'll keep doing that as a hobby. Why? Because after the politically > correct witch hunt that resulted in Eich being out and radical gays being > appeased, all I see here are what come across as smug attempts to deflect > blame and just weather the storm. FF is the new IE, the boorish clod that > wants to just dissemble or stomp over any opposition in the style of Gates. > > Yes, I've seen the aggravatingly repetitive "Eich wasn't forced out, he quit" > replies which only come across as being deliberately misleading. The fact > will always remain that he is gone because radical gays wanted him gone over > his personal beliefs. > > There is also the disingenuous refusal to acknowledge that we live in a era > of politically correct witch hunts, which is why people are finally fed up. > This episode did not occur in a vacuum. Mozilla is Cracker Barrel part 2. > > There are the ever present double-standards of political correctness, such as > the calls in the moderation thread that any opposition to gay marriage should > be censored from this list. But in another thread, any employees who called > for Eich's purging should not suffer any negative consequences, because that > is presumably the good kind of intolerance on their part. > > Then we have the claims that Mozilla statements didn't mean what they said. > The chairwomans' statement that everyone reasonably interprets as "we're so > eagerly sorry that we didn't purge the intolerant bigot sooner" didn't really > mean that after all. Sure, sure... Since the tidal wave of negative backlash, > she makes no statement wanting to communicate on that, much less apologize on > that part of the 'community', does she? That makes her original meaning > doubly clear. > > > Some particular examples: > > Here's a statement that merges two very wrong approaches: "On the one hand, > someone from Engagement should talk to the petitioners and explain that we > did not fire Brendan or coerce him to resign. On the other hand, if it's not > really affecting usage, is it worth it? -Sheeri Cabral" So much for being > principled, huh? It's just a matter of what Mozilla can get away with after > all. > > Or this: > "If I understand correctly what you write, you are changing browser > because 4 employees of Mozilla have asked for the resignation of > Brendan? Or am I misunderstanding? > > Best regards, > David " > > which comes across as condescendingly mocking. > > Then there are the inevitable "let's move on" exhortations because Mozilla is > the supposed great repository of fairness and equality and tolerance of > diverse speech. That's entirely laughable, considering that the CEO was just > purged to appease radical gays. (Sure, sure... he "volunteered to be purged!") > > But wait, Eich was also encouraged to accept a humiliating demotion, so that > makes everything all right. Then there's the outright falsehood that he's > still an active part of Mozilla. > > Through it all, while many, many thousands (and growing) are infuriated over > what happened, not one person from Mozilla is. Not from the top to the > bottom, none that have overtly said so anyway. Quite a disconnect. > > So keep fiddlling, Mozilla. People are coming to believe that you are even > less trustworthy than the deceptive spies of megacorporation google. You are > making enemies and enemies have a way of multiplying. That's the same maxim > that Micro$oft arrogantly ignored all those years ago. > _______________________________________________ > governance mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance > -- David Rajchenbach-Teller, PhD Performance Team, Mozilla _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
