On 07/07/2015 06:44, B Galliart wrote:
I have a hard time believing people see the concerns as legitimate in a world where "advocacy" is just marked hidden and disregarded.
I considered responding to this point earlier and didn't, because I didn't want to fan the flames of this thread. Seeing as it's brought up again:
You commented on an engineering "implement all this stuff" tracker bug. Your comment was based on your interpretation of the ToS and without any checks with anyone like our or Pocket's legal department, and made some very concrete and user-hostile UI/UX suggestions, not just "hey, maybe we should be thinking about this".
Bugzilla, as far as the engineering products are concerned (there are also Legal and Marketing and goodness-knows-what in bugzilla, but nevermind that for now), really really sucks as a discussion forum for "why" or "what should/shouldn't we do" questions, rather than "here's an issue and we should fix it in this way / that way".
You commented on an engineering bug and the engineers involved didn't think your comment was helping the bug in question get resolved correctly. We tag comments in cases like that (including our own, e.g. if our understanding of the "how are we fixing this issue" or "what is the root cause of this issue" changes, sometimes older comments get tagged "obsolete", which also causes them to be hidden).
We do this because that way a bug page is more readable and we can get work done effectively. It's not a value judgment on the intent of the comment (which is almost always good) or the person making the comment. Context is important, and this bug was not the right context for your comment. That doesn't mean people don't think it's a legitimate concern, but it does mean that it wasn't contributing to the bug in question.
Really, this thread was a better way to engage with the issue, but if you would have wanted to use bugzilla, filing a separate bug in the legal product would probably have been the "right" way to do so; at this point I'm confident Gerv has contacted the relevant people already and they will hopefully respond here soon (ie filing a legal bug right now is unlikely to accomplish anything apart from confusion as to the best place to reply etc.).
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