An order diagnosis originates from a clinical system and eventually makes its 
way into one of the two billing systems (Hospital or Professional).  Typically 
the physician needs to sign for an order, so you shouldn't trust a diagnosis on 
an order unless it was signed.

In the revenue cycle for professional billing (this normally means outpatient 
visits), you will find diagnoses on charges that originated from one of the 
many clinical systems.  Many would assume these all show up on professional 
billing claim types, but that isn't always the case if the charges are not 
billed to insurance.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dan Connolly
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:52 AM
To: Phillip Reeder; [email protected]; [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [gpc-informatics] #90: Diagnoses Modifiers for data attribution

I just realized this proposal doesn't facilitate the main distinction our users 
are accustomed to: billing vs. clinical diagnosis. They'd have to know to 
choose the union of Enounter, Order, Problem list, and Professional. In HERON 
at KUMC, the union of Problem List and Encounter is represented as a Clinical 
folder.

And we don't (yet?) support Professional Diagnosis nor Order Diagnosis. What 
are those? I'd appreciate somebody filling me/us in on what workflows those 
represent.

-- 
Dan


________________________________________
From: Phillip Reeder [[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 2:13 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]; Dan Connolly
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [gpc-informatics] #90: Diagnoses Modifiers for data attribution

Based on the emails I found, and what is on babel, this is what I think
the modifiers should be.  The only difference from Babel is in the Billing
Diagnosis modifiers where I tried apply what was in the various emails.

Cerner had Inactive and Canceled modifiers for the Problem List Diagnosis
in one of the emails.  I¹m unsure if they need to be added or if they
could be mapped to the three modifiers from Epic.

For consistency, is there a preference for Principle vs Primary?  Does it
make a difference?

Modifier                                        Modifier Code           Clarity 
Table

Billing Diagnosis
        Admit Diagnosis Principle               DX|BILL:ADMIT PRINCIPLE 
HSP_ACCT_ADMIT_DX
        Admit Diagnosis Secondary               DX|BILL:ADMIT SECONDARY 
HSP_ACCT_ADMIT_DX
        Discharge Diagnosis Principle           DX|BILL:PRINCIPAL       
HSP_ACCT_DX_LIST
        Discharge Diagnosis Secondary           DX|BILL:SECONDARY       
HSP_ACCT_DX_LIST
        Discharge Diagnosis Present on Admis..  DX|BILL:POA             
HSP_ACCT_DX_LIST
Encounter Diagnosis
        Admit Encounter Diagnosis               DX|ENC:ADMIT            
HSP_ADMIT_DIAGNOSIS
        Discharge Encounter Diagnosis           DX|ENC:DISCHARGE        
HSP_DISCH_DIAGNOSIS
        Primary Encounter Diagnosis             DX|ENC:PRIMARY          
PAT_ENC_DX
        Secondary Encounter Diagnosis           DX|ENC:SECONDARY        
PAT_ENC_DX
        Medical History Diagnosis               DX:HISTORY              
MEDICAL_HX
Order Diagnosis
        Order Medication Diagnosis              DX|ORDER:MED            
ORDER_DX_MED
        Order Procedure Diagnosis               DX|ORDER:PROC           
ORDER_DX_PROC
Problem List Diagnosis
        Active Problem                          DX|PROB:ACTIVE          
PROBLEM_LIST
        Deleted Problem                         DX|PROB:DELETED         
PROBLEM_LIST
        Resolved Problem                        DX|PROB:RESOLVED        
PROBLEM_LIST
Professional Diagnosis
        Primary Professional Diagnosis          DX|PROF:PRIMARY         
ARPB_TRANSACTIONS
        Secondary Professional Diagnosis        DX|PROF:SECONDARY       
ARPB_TRANSACTIONS


On 11/12/14, 1:33 PM, "GPC Informatics" <[email protected]> wrote:

>#90: Diagnoses Modifiers for data attribution
>--------------------------+----------------------------
> Reporter:  campbell      |       Owner:  preeder
>     Type:  design-issue  |      Status:  assigned
> Priority:  major         |   Milestone:  data-domains2
>Component:  data-stds     |  Resolution:
> Keywords:                |  Blocked By:
> Blocking:  70, 91, 120   |
>--------------------------+----------------------------
>Changes (by dconnolly):
>
> * cc: gpc-dev@Š (added)
> * owner:  dconnolly => preeder
> * status:  reopened => assigned
>
>
>Comment:
>
> Phillip, I re-opene this because your question (Wednesday, November 12,
> 2014 12:44 PM) shows we clearly didn't carry out the recorded decision.
>
> Do you have a preference on what the modifiers actually should be?
>
>--
>Ticket URL:
><http://informatics.gpcnetwork.org/trac/Project/ticket/90#comment:7>
>gpc-informatics <http://informatics.gpcnetwork.org/>
>Greater Plains Network - Informatics


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