I think this conversation is a bit confused or I do not understand the question.



CPT is considered HCPCS level 1 codes and are sanctioned by CMS for billing and 
reporting of clinical professional services - that is billing by the clinician. 
 HCPCPS level 2 are codes generally issued by carriers, Medicaid  or CMS itself 
and are for many services/procedures that are covered by CMS but not inherently 
level 1 - like ambulance services or regional administrative procedures.  HCPCS 
level 3 are regional or local codes for Medicare/Medicaid covered services.



http://www.cms.gov/Medicare/Coding/MedHCPCSGenInfo/index.html?redirect=/medhcpcsgeninfo/



Institutional billing for procedures has been ICD-9-CM (PCS) and the 
institutional component of many procedures like colonoscopy or cardiac 
catheterization done I  hospital labs have two levels of billing - CPT and 
ICD-9-CM.  These are scheduled to be replaced by ICD-10-PCS but I don't know 
that a compliance data has been established yet.



For our Epic colleagues we will be posting our Clarity ETLs for procedures to 
the Userweb for perusal.



UNMC has deployed CPT and ICD-9-CM(PCS) using the metadata we received from (I 
think - Hubert correct me if error) Colorado and we have all our billed 
procedures deployed from Epic using that metadata.  We are also rolling out 
SNOMED CT procedures and will be deploying our surgical history data using 
SNOMED coding.

Jim

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Subject: CPT codes for procedures

When building UTHSCSA UMLS-CPT terms, we used only CPT2014. But based on 
today’s gpc-dev conversation, it seems like HCPCS is preferred. HCPCS level 1 
codes are 5-digit numeric HCPT codes. HCPCS level 2 are a letter followed by 
four numeric digits as the HCPCS code.

I think I should rebuild our terms with this order of precedence: HCPCS > HCPT 
> CPT. In doing so, we should end up with terms that are more aligned with the 
current UTSW hierarchy.

For i2b2, we should prepend the codes to the browse-able terms, similar to UTSW 
but maybe omitting the ‘Level 1’ for subfolders, and postfix codes in the i2v2 
search paths.

Questions/comments on this course of action?

-Angela | UTHSCSA



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