Would iris identification, voiceprint identification or fingerprint
identification get over all these obstacles?
jon patrick
Quoting Wal Tracey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Stephen
> Have a look at
>
> http://www.medicareaustralia.gov.au/providers/online_initiatives/
> electronic_referrals.htm
>
> This details the requirements for electronic referrals, pathology &
> radiology requests. All require an individual certificate
>
> GP may require to use his individual certificate smart card in any of
> the following locations
> You would need to cart your card or USB key with you in the following
> possible situations-
> Consulting room
> Treatment room - if it has a workstation
> Branch practice
> Nursing home
> Hospital
> Home visit
> Residence -  to do all the paperwork instead of watching TV or
> drinking beer
> Multiple practices in the case of floating locum
>
> This creates potential for mislaid cards
> Card may also be lost , stolen or left at home and if you do not have
> access to your card then you cease to communicate electronically
>
> I phoned HESA to ask about the lost card scenario and they said that
> in this case they would send one by courier. I pointed out that this
> may still take 2 days for Darwin or worse still for remote areas
> They then muttered about letting Divisions distribute cards as they
> now do for location certificates. This still does not deal with the
> lost card in remote areas.
>
> Our practice would need a card reader in 5 consulting rooms and 2
> treatment rooms as well as a card reader for each of the 6 doctors
> for use at home - their web site said they will only supply one card
> reader per doctor
>
> I predict that there will be considerable resistance to the use of
> card readers  by GPs and even greater resistance from specialists.
> The proposed changes to level 1 PIP payments for IT  require GPs to
> be capable of sending and receiving encrypted messages
>
> Surely we can come up with some better technology.
> Could we not have a location certificate which authenticates the
> practice and incorporate a log on PIN  for doctors
> I would rather memorize a 25 digit alphanumeric PIN than use their
> card readers.
>
> HESA still does not have a Mac compatible card reader & I have
> suggested to them that Mac users should take legal action in view of
> the new PIP requirements claiming professional & financial disadvantage.
>
> Wal
>
>
> On 23/01/2006, at 10:03 AM, Andrew N. Shrosbree wrote:
>
> > Stephen,
> >
> > Argus 4.1 (in testing right now) automatically signs all messages
> > with the sending site's location certificate. The receivers of such
> > signed messages have the option to configure Argus to reject an
> > incoming message unless it has been digitally signed. Verification
> > is done by going straight to HeSA in real time when a message is
> > downloaded by the receiving site. Argus also checks HeSA's
> > Certificate Revocation Lists to confirm that the signing
> > certificate has not been revoked.
> >
> > You are correct: for HIC purposes, personal certs (smart card) must
> > be used. My team is about to re-integrate into Argus the ability to
> > perform personal signing. We left these modules dormant since 2003
> > because of a lack of clarity regarding how personal signing was
> > going to be implemented in practical terms. The theory was great
> > until cold, hard practical reality hit us all.
> >
> > Regards
> > Andrew
> >
> > S+C Barnett wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Hi Andrew,
> >> We are just looking at the ability to sign pathology and
> >> specialist letters.
> >> For HIC purposes, I gather they have to be signed by the personal
> >> certificate ( ie dongle) or has this now changed?
> >> I'd be interested to hear if this can be done with location certs.
> >> Stephen
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Andrew N. Shrosbree [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 1:53 PM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Re: [GPCG_TALK] Digital signage with Terminal services
> >>
> >>
> >> Does your business requirement demand personal signing?
> >> I ask this because we have implemented the ability to sign with a
> >> location certificate - gets around the need for physical devices.
> >>
> >> S+C Barnett wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi List,
> >>> Our 7 doctor practice runs off Terminal Services. Even if we have
> >>> an app that allows us to do digital signage of referrals to
> >>> specialists/pathology using PKI personal keys on USB, where do we
> >>> put the 'dongle' ( so to speak!)?
> >>>
> >>> The only answer I can think of is to put the USB into the server,
> >>> but that's in another part of the building, and would have to be
> >>> left in all day.....hardly drastically secure.
> >>>
> >>> I suppose the other option is to keep the certs in the server,
> >>> but have secure password access to your own USB cert ( kind of 2-
> >>> factor........)?
> >>> Any other thoughts?
> >>> Regards
> >>> Stephen
> >>> Stephen Barnett B.Med MRCGP FRACGP DCH (Lond)
> >>>
> >>>
> > --
> > Andrew N. Shrosbree B.Sc, B.Ec
> > Technical Director
> > ArgusConnect Pty Ltd
> > http://www.argusconnect.com.au
> > Suite 4, Greenhill Centre, Mt Helen
> > Victoria, Australia
> > Tel: +61 (0)3 5335 2214
> > Mob: +61 (0)415 645 291
> > Skype: andrewshroz
> >
> >
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>
>
> Wal Tracey
> Norpalms
> 25 Barker Road
> Howard Springs
>
> Ph 08 89831416
> Fx  08 89814752
> email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>


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Jon Patrick
Chair of Language Technology
School of Information Technologies
University of Sydney
Sydney, NSW, 2006, Australia

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