Well thanks for you thoughts and helpful contacts Thinus.  Our daughter
lives in Turner ACT so our paths may cross sometime.    Where is your house?

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Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2006 9:47 AM
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I've been away from the RSA for nearly 8 years and have lost pretty much all
of my professional contacts over there. Talk to Christo in Cootamundra - he
may know. Other possible resources would be Erwin Moore who works at
Kapoonga (The army base - I may be misspelling it)-he also works with the
Mischrecky couple as a GP in Wagga - his wife, Annelise, works for
Recruit-a-Doc who brought us to Australia and I'm sure should could offer
options (at a fee of course)
There is also a new RSA doc in Wagga ED - Andrew Cumberlidge if I recall
correctly. He only came over in 2005 and his networking would be a lot more
current than mine
T

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Good luck with it all.    Do you have any RSA friends or acquaintances who
might be interested next year?   They could walk into a friendly situation
and take over etc   The other 2 South African families would welcome them
and help supervise etc if that was necessary.

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Thanks John - the thought did cross my mind. Fact is that we really enjoy
Canberra - the kids have lots of various sport and other activities and
Riana and I are slowly working towards only an 8-6 work day. We have
actually started to eat right, do regular exercise, etc. som maybe I won't
have my first MI at 48y like my dad did. We are moving into our own house in
2 weeks as well so we will be well and truly in debt but have a life.
T 

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Shame Thinus, you could have walked in her with your wife only 1 1/2 hours
from Canberra and taken over the whole setup, patients, income,
infrastructure, computers, as much or little procedural work as you desire,
hospital or not, 2 other South African Docs and families with young children
in town, wonderful lifestyle, abundant income, one night on call/week  etc
etc

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Will let you know - I first need to know if the HIC will give us provder
numbers ( we still fall under the 10 year moratorium) and can then give the
Developer the go ahead for the Fitting out of the rooms - that will take at
least 2 months.
T 


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Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2006 8:18 AM
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Thinus van Rensburg wrote:

>Any suggestions on the PBX?
>  
>
Hi Thinus

I have no knowledge or experience of PABXs except when I peer into the
motherboard of our 9 year old Samsung system I can see a 286 processor.
That is to say, when the PABX was first installed they were using 10 year
old technology. However, all our slots in the board were used up by our last
extension 18 months ago and I am in the market for a new system.

After sitting in the whirlpool (e.g.
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=438869) for a while there
seems to me to be four broad alternatives:-

   1. Stick with PSTN but run some outgoing lines through VoIP as per
      Tony's suggestion. This is least cost and least risk.
   2. Get a standard PABX solution but query the dealers about what VoIP
      options their systems have. I gather these are fairly standard
      add-ons for the likes of Ericsson, Nortel, Alcatel, etc.
   3. Go the whole hog with VoIP everywhere. You could do this yourself
      (which would be high risk and potentially high maintenance) or get
      a VoIP specialist to do it. (I'd query sensis.com.au for voip or
      pabx in your city for suppliers.) The VoIP guy I spoke with in
      Brisbane 18 months ago was high tech and high cost but the market
      has matured a fair bit in the last six months and prices should be
      more reasonable.
   4. Forget completely about VoIP and screw the phone company for a
      deal that gives you less than 10 cents per local call (which is
      the amount you'll pay from most of the VoIP providers). This
      option is probably only achievable for larger businesses.

If you are getting ADSL2+ QoS should not be too great a problem. You will
still need QoS traffic shaping but your internet connection will probably
run faster than parts of my LAN.

I'd be interested to hear how you go with this if only for purely selfish
personal financial benefit.

Cheers.

David


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