You forget that Andrew asked me to elaborate.
You probably do not know Horst as well as I do, nor are you as aware of his
dicta.
I have had quite a few private messages of support - apart from the few
comments here - more even than when my expenses were not paid for attending
meetings!
I still maintain that
when we started writing in xml in 2001 firefox/mozilla did not have
the xml handling capabilities that IE 5.5 had then
the vast majority of users (it was fairly close to 95% in UK Liz)
use IE
and we have had not had any great complaints so far - at least not from
paying customers.
What you may not realize is that while a lot of people are nice and
supposedly humble, they go behind your back to try to undermine you as best
they can. Horst is a gentleman and tells you upfront what you may need to
know. Andrew knew what was coming - he has heard it before. We are all
different and it is part of the mix you get in Australia.
With me, WYSIWYG - I have no hidden agendas and I do not crawl for favours
and I dont owe anybody anything.
Apart from the suggestion to code to use firefox/mozilla I have not had any
suggestions from here as to how we could improve. I would welcome any
suggestions in that area.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Mario Ruiz
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:01 PM
To: General Practice Computing Group Talk
Subject: Re: [GPCG_TALK] Details of Public Coag Outcome
Importance: High
Hi David,
When caught in a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging. I thought
that your attack on Medical Director was bad taste and unjustified,
every product in the market has got strength and weaknesses, so does
yours, and ours. A dose of humility rather than obstinate arrogance
might do wonders for your future product development, if you listen,
people might actually give you ideas on how to improve it, and that's
the whole point of this discussions.
So maybe its time for you to stop digging a bigger hole and reconsider,
there is no need to insult or belittle other people, collegues,
competitors, their work and their products. We are all here to share
knowledge, experience and ideas, not to blow your own trumpet at
somebody else's expense. Sometimes we don't like what people say to us,
in my experience, these are the most valuable nuggets to learn from.
For your information, we do not have any shareholding, commercial
arrangement, interest or association with MD/HCN. Its all about the way
we think and our company values.
Mario Ruiz
Alerce Software
David de Bhál wrote:
> Well we had this great security audit and did not have too many problems.
>
> You have chosen, unlike 95%+ of the rest of the world, to exclude yourself
> from some marvelous software - you will be the loser.
>
> It smacks back to the totalitarian attitudes that one person is right
> despite the market. They tried to kill off the Jews in the 30s because
they
> thought they were superior, we now have another mob killing others because
> they are right and the majority is wrong about what they can or cannot do
> and watch.
>
> You vehemently hate what the free market has decided is suitable for it.
>
> We will, when we have time and funds, address Firefox/Mozillza issues in a
> rewrite but when we were writing our stuff in 2001, Mozilla did not have
the
> capacity to handle the XML in the way we want to. So it is not entirely
our
> fault. It is not a priority for us until a group of enthusiasts tell us
that
> they are really interested in our modifying the way we do things and are
> prepared to pay their estimates of 6 months use in advance, as a gesture
of
> good will and their preparedness to use it, all other things being equal.
>
> Then of course there is the issue that you would never use it anyway, nor
> would all these protagonists because they are more interested in playing
> than in excellent software.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Horst Herb
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:01 AM
> To: General Practice Computing Group Talk
> Subject: Re: [GPCG_TALK] Details of Public Coag Outcome
>
> On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:43, David de Bhál wrote:
>
>>No, we just have to deal with 'tyre kickers' like Horst who is far to pure
>>for our purposes. He would 'never' use it anyway. Same for some of the
>>purists.
>>
>>Again, the vast majority of our clients are not too worried.
>
>
> The whole purpose of a web app like yours is that you can access it from
any
>
> standards compliant browser
>
> The way you have created it, it is just another client-server app with a
> proprietary client, just one which happens to be installed by default on
> moist Windows machines already. You have forfeited all the benefits of a
> real
> web app.
>
> I actually can't use it even if I would like to, because you have locked
me
> out by enforcing the use of IE 5.5 which I don't have
>
> The huge popularity of Firefox btw shows that I am not the only one
> concerned
> about the security issues of IE 5.5 and the drift away from public
standards
>
> that goes with it.
>
> We had that discussion that many times before, so I think it is pointless
to
>
> discuss this issue any further
>
> Horst
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