At 12:19 am +1100 9/3/06, Peter MacIsaac wrote:
John,

A form of generic secure stationary was approved by HIC for printing
pathology requests as part of a trial at CeCH/Ballarat Division around 2000.
There is nothing on a pre-printed form that cant be added in real time on
the plain paper or generic stationary version.

Well - there's:
* marketing - colour, corporate image
* perforations
* double sided printing

I struggle to see how a "secure" piece of paper authenticates my signature on paper or electronically.

Is it non-erasable????


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-----Original Message-----
From: john dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 March 2006 8:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; General Practice Computing Group Talk
Subject: Re: [GPCG_TALK] Increase in radiology ordering

Peter,

I dont know what radiology request requirements are but for pathology
its not possible at present to have a unique request form printed up for
each patient as they would not be "HIC approved".  You would have to
have dynamic data on a different form.

Currently all pathology request forms look pretty much the same as there
is a generic HIC supplied minimum set of data you must include word for
word

The form you propose as a pathology request form cannot include any tick
boxes for tests/test groups, must have the questions about pvte patient
in private hospital etc

And the forms have to be formally submitted and approved by Medicare
before you can use them, after which they give you an "instrument
number" to include on the printed stationary.

They are very particular about the wording, and in my experience the
page real estate is actually not so big at all when including all the
hic required fields (having the personal experience of actually
complying and designing forms of late).

JD

Peter MacIsaac wrote:
 Andrew,

 The point is that you can print all this stuff on the request form at the
 time of ordering the test - there is really a lot of spare real estate if
 you don't use the pre-printed stationary they give you.  The patients
would
 be better off having a description of the investigation and printed
 instructions.

 It may not come as a surprise but maybe 10-20% of radiology bookings made
by
 phone by the patient end up in some form of misunderstanding. Having the
 request present at time of booking would be really appreciated by both
 patient and radiographers.

 Some of this is covered in the report I was involved in doing for the
 College Radiology. It is available at:

 http://www.ranzcr.edu.au/documents/list.cfm?lngCat=65  titled e-health
 issues paper. There is a survey to go with it asking for rating of the
 issues raised against importance and how well being addressed.

 As regards the paper we use, how many people out there like having to feed
 multiple forms into their printers and the stuff ups that occasionally
 occur?






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