The data are tolerably well described in Australian implementation standards for HL7.

See -
http://www.saiglobal.com/shop/Script/PortalInformatics.asp


Ian.

At 12:37 am +1100 13/3/06, Uma Srinivasan wrote:
I agree with Tim that the issue is not the web services technology, but
identifying, describing and agreeing what each service wants to share. So
the crux of the problem is defining the minimum data set that people agree
and want to share. Then the associated metadata will need to be defined and
offered as a description service. If this is done not every one has to write
n(n-1)/2 interfaces.  So it is back to people, policy and procedures.

Uma Srinivasan


On 12/3/06 3:13 PM, "Tim Churches" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Paul Clarke wrote:
 Hi Tim,
 Your point on the number of interfaces is quite correct, however I think
 the formula should be:

 For n systems, where n> 1, the number of interfaces is :   n(n-1)/2
 e.g. 4 systems requires 6 interfaces, 5 systems = 10 interfaces, 6
 systems = 15 interfaces, 10 systems require 45 interfaces .... and then
 we move into mind blowing numbers !!

 Whether you need to divide by two depends, of course, on how you define
 an "interface" - but you are right in that bi-directionality is usually
 assumed. Alas, the transformation of health data is rarely perfectly
 symmetrical or commutative, so although the effort in writing those
 interfaces involved is probably less than n(n-1), but is usually more
 than n(n-1)/2

 Tim C

 Tim Churches wrote:

 David Guest wrote:


 Webservices does not seem that daunting a technology. My concern is
 about standardising the minimum datasets and calls that they will
 provide. Communication between disparate applications is much easier
 with RPC/SOAP but you still don't want to write (n-1)! interfaces.

 It's not as bad as you think, David! To get n information systems which
 each use their own dataset definitions and semantics to talk to one
 another, you only need write n(n-1) sets of interfaces, don't you?. For
 n > 4, n(n-1) < (n-1)!

 However, either way you are on a hiding to nothing. Bring on the
 minimum/core dataset definitions (or I should say, let the argy-bargy
 over what needs to be in the minimum/care dataset definitions commence!)!

 Tim C






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