> Sure, but my question was "Why is it necessary to poll every path and
> imaging provider?" Surely there is only a need to poll the much more
> limited number of providers to who the GP(s) in a practice have actually
> referred patients/specimens. If a lab forwards a specimen to another
> lab, then the results would need to be made available at the original
> lab for collection from that lab's Web service.

Agreed, if we restrict ourselves to traditional medical request/response
then you are right that the polling can be limited to those organisations
that your system has an outstanding request at. But I think there is
an opportunity here to develop a messaging infrastructure that is
much more powerful than that model. I mean, why shouldn't patients
be able to send unsolicited "results" back to the GP, documenting
their daily BP for the past month (collected automatically by their
home BP monitoring device). Or what about a physio who sees
a walk in patient and would like to send a report to the patients
GP so that the GP is kept informed. Its all very pie in the sky but
I think we would be limiting ourselves by only considering messaging
that fits into the request/response.

> 1) Web services can be easily implement using packaged software on a
> standardised Web server at the edge of each practice. That implies that

100% agree on all 3 of your points. I think the reality will end up that
those GP organisations that have economies of scale will run their own
IT infrastructure (webservices), and those that don't will rely on
someone else to
run their infrastructure (which given the sensitivity of medical records may
need to be a specialist "medical" ISP/division to give GP's confidence
that there
are procedures being followed). Which of course is exactly what
currently happens
in every other industry in Australia and the world so it shouldn't be
that great a conceptual leap for health care (i.e. small law firms
have email and
a website with an ISP, large ones host their own etc)

> Commissioning a suitable group to write an open sourced reference
> implementation of such a Web services server would cost perhaps a few
> hundred thousand (including documentation and testing) and would
> kick-start the process and encourage lots of redundancy by allowing

Well I'm writing some medical web service stuff right now to iron
out some of those practical difficulties that always come up in
IT.. if someone wants to give me hundreds of thousands of dollars I
can do it quicker :-), but irrespective of that I'll let you all know how
it goes..

> Of course, all of this is still predicated on a pervasive PKI, isn't it?
> Does NEHTA think that HeSA cuts the mustard in this respect, I wonder?
> Given that a national provider index is planned in the next three years,
> a national PKI intimately hooked up to the national provider index makes
> enormous sense. NEHTA has, from memory, $30-40 million to implement
> this. So let's have the national health PKI we ought to have had from
> the outset. How about it, NEHTA?

Yes, a national provider index and PKI are such a natural fit
that it will be criminal if they do one and not the other.. and it
would be nice if it wasn't done half arsed as well (e.g. hesa)

Andrew
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