Tom,

While I heartily support NeHTA's general direction (especially SOA), I hesitate to be quite so categorical about their methodology being "absolutely" anything. This suggests that their word must be embraced as gospel by those of us out here who are confronted daily by practical implementation issues, not just grand theory and eloquent designs. IMO, this is all we have received so far from NeHTA: death by a thousand standards and definitions.

Any activity in this area that can show solid, practical implementation examples deserves our diligent attention. Such practical, working implementations have been amply demonstrated by the IHE connectathons.


Tom Bowden wrote:

Hi fellow listers,
It is so refreshing to hear some commonsense once in a while. I would like to echo some of Michael Tooth's comments. As a service provider involved in the Hobart HealthConnect project and a number of similar projects around the Pacific rim, I can say without fear of contradiction that the typical EHR project problems Michael has described are totally accurate. Furthermore, I agree with Michael that the NeHTA approach of sorting out the fundamentals {key infrastructure components; NHI (National Health identifier Index), HPI (Health Provider Index); terminology/coding and architecture, messaging standards and fit for purpose standards setting mechanism} is _absolutely _the way to go. Having those in place will allow those of us with an interest in building solutions and services to get on with it unimpeded. Without fundamental infrastructure and an architectural strategy, it has been very hard to make worthwhile progress and deliver value to the Australian health sector. Now, even with the promise of these key pieces of enabling infrastructure, we can already feel the brakes coming off! Over here in the far Eastern state of NZ (where the sun rises first) we have for 12 years had a topdown/bottomup strategy; Government has paid for and built key infrastructure, NHI, HPI, national systems with SOA architecture/ standardised interfaces: The private sector practice system vendors in collaboration with Integration partners etc such as HealthLink have built services that have delivered value and created momentum. It is a symbiotic environment and one that has enabled us to gain an international lead in this area (along with Scandinavia). Over here, are engaged in a patient summary initiative (at a similar stage to that being deployed in Scotland) where we are now developing a Summary Patient Record (GP/Primary Healthcare Organisation held) that will be accessible to provide continuity of care (eg Emergency Department ). We believe the same approach is now filtering westward, thanks to sound, pragmatic leadership and strategic thinking now emerging. David M; A comment to you; in Australia, "health" consumes approx $80 billion of GDP and is growing very quickly. We know from first hand experience that there is a 2-3% saving available simply through greater productivity;having less paper changing hands and there are similar savings opportunities available from more efficient primary- secondary integration, use of targeted disease management systems and finding the right EHR strategy (one that everyone trusts is the key). So it is extremely clear where the funding is; right in front of our noses I believe. In my view NeHTA is doing exactly the right thing. Throwing money randomly at automation projects won't do it, as previous efforts have surely shown us, it is complex. To fix IT/it government needs to incent/disincent health providers to exhibit the correct behaviours and deliver appropriate outcomes. In order to gain incentives/ avoid disincentives healthcare providers will naturally engage with people/organisations that are prepared to back their ability to solve these problems to invest in solutions and fix them and will be rewarded if their investment decisions are good ones. I realise that this may not be a forum for debate on economic theory, however, to solve the problem, an understanding of supply side vs. demand side management is what is needed. Have a listen to Philip Davies, he understands very clearly what needs to happen and what he is saying is directly in line with what NeHTA is doing. I understand one of his papers is on the AMA website and another will be on the NEHTA website. Kind regards to all Tom Bowden CEO HealthLink
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