What about the "Gnotary" idea proposed by Horst some years ago to prove the fact that medical records have not been subsequently altered in a legal case?
Presumably this could this be applied to any document or  letter. ie

Letter + plus some local digital signature +timestamp => one way hash => distribute the result to several peer notary servers including HIC. The letter itself remains confidential.
Can be recovered by referring GP if required

R

Ross Davey wrote:

J Collett wrote:

But how do you accomplish this when you send the document as an attachment in an email which is then 'stripped' off to be imported into an EHR? Is the
attachment signed as well and I just don't know where to look?



Whether the document is in an attachment or not is immaterial. There are a number of choices of what to sign and this is a reasonable matter of debate, however whether you use MO or Argus or HealthLink the issue of what happens to the signature once the document is imported into MD or Genie etc remains the same regardless of what transport product you are using. The signtaure is lost once it is passed to a clinical application that cant handle signatures.

I would think that MO does the same as we do. You can view the document and signature from the database store of the document within MO or Argus. But once the document is imported into the clinical app, it loses its signature unless the clinical app implements viewing of the digital signature in the same way as the message transport facility has. (really the signing of the document should not be a function of the message transport facility, but should be a function of the sending and receiving application) Now you might sign a facsimile of the document that has been placed in an OBX segment of the HL7 or you might sign separately the atomised data in the OBX segments and then sign separately the facsimile of the document, or you might sign the entire HL7 message.. The trick is to come up with a scheme that everyone agrees upon and is extensible and handles both document 'blobs' and atomised HL7 data (and maybe even messages that are not HL7) and maybe even allows different people to sign different components of a document as is now possible in a paper-based form.

Tricky. We think this needs a lot more thought before going to Standards Australia.

NeHTA better get on with it and start to focus on 'content/payload' issues otherwise we will just have to get together and decide on this ourselves.

cheers
Ross Davey



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