David More wrote:
> Hi Tim and all,
> 
> As I understand it a journal needs to have at least 2 published issues before 
> getting 
> indexed in Medline etc.

Well, indexed by PubMed. MEDLINE has more rigorous requirements. But
PubMed is really what counts these days - hardly anyone uses the
repackaged MEDLINE search services provided by OVID and other commercial
information providers, do they?

> The electronic Journal of Health Informatics will cross that threshold pretty 
> soon I 
> understand and will be indexed then I have been told.

If some more ACHI fellows submitted papers to it, it might cross that
threshold a bit sooner...

> I must say it is good to see the increasing number of journals in the area.
> 
> Agree the MJA will get excellent OZ coverage.

Yeah, and letters to the MJA are indexed in PubMed and MEDLINE, and yes,
the HCN stuff is fairly Oz-specific. Now, who has access to the "MD
Reference Tool" in question?

> Cheers and a Great 2007!

Hope you have boot freshly polished, David, ready for action.

Tim C

> On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 12:28:07 +1100, Tim Churches wrote:
>> Oliver Frank wrote:
>>> Tim Churches wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, if one is flogging evidence-based medicine products, I think that 
>>>> one's 
> advertising and promotional material needs to be evidence-based... In this
>>>> case, since the details of the cases and the exact search terms used by 
>>>> the 
> investigators are all provided (see
>>>> http://www.bmj.com/cgi/data/bmj.39003.640567.AE/DC1/1) it is but an hour 
>>>> or two's work 
> to plug those search terms into HCN's MD Reference Tool product
>>>> and see what the results are, using methods as described in the BMJ paper. 
>>>> Perhaps 
> someone with access to the HCN MD Reference Tool product might like to
>>>> do this little study for them, and to publish the results here, and/or 
>>>> submit the 
> results as a letter to the Editor of the MJA (I'm happy to help, but
>>>> don't have access to the HCN products in question)?
>>>>
>>> And can also consider publishing it in the:
>>>
>>> electronic Journal of Health Informatics (sic - no upper case in electronic)
>>>
>>> http://ejhi.net/ojs/index.php/ejhi
>>>
>>> which describes itself:
>>>
>>> "The electronic Journal of Health Informatics is an international journal 
>>> committed to 
> scholarly excellence and dedicated to the advancement of Health
>>> Informatics and information technology in healthcare. It is a journal for 
>>> all health 
> professions and informaticians of all levels.
>> Hmm, maybe, but it is not indexed by Pubmed or MEDLINE (try searching for it 
>> at
>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=search&DB=journals ) 
>> although Google 
> Scholar does know about it.
>> I think that a letter to the MJA editor would a) be published and b) get 
>> wider 
> readership (since the MJA is also open access). Nevertheless, things like eJHI
>> should be supported, if they are, in fact, resourced adequately and are 
>> hence likely to 
> grow and persist beyond the initial enthusiasm stage. That is not
>> entirely clear, I must say, as most of the people behind eJHI seem to be 
>> health 
> informatics academics who aren't exactly rushing to publish their own papers
>> in it (probably because publication in it doesn't get them many DEST 
>> (Australian Govt 
> Dept of Education, Science and Technology) brownie points for their
>> faculty reviews). There are several other good open access journals for 
>> health 
> informatics and related topics, but all levy fairly substantial author charges
>> to cover their costs, presumably in a sustainable manner:
>>
>> http://www.biomedcentral.com/bmcmedinformdecismak/
>>
>> http://www.plosone.org (rather new, but looks promising if they can make 
>> their web site 
> perform better)
>> http://www.jmir.org/ (oldest of such journals by far)
>>
>> But a letter to the MJA costs nothing (well, AMA members foot the bill) and 
>> if published 
> can be read by all god's children for free.
>> Tim C
>>
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