syan tan wrote:
> Are they patenting that particular method, or are they patenting the
> idea of using intermediate secure storage , and interoperating messages
> for patient record systems ? 

What they are trying to patent is what is described in the claims for
the patent application. My understanding is that individual claims of
the application can be opposed - that is what MSIA is doing. If enough
of the claims are refuted (with respect to innovation/prior art or other
aspects of patentability), then the whole patent application may be
rejected, or the applicants may decide it is not worth procedding with
the application. Either way, it is a win.

So start using PubMed, Google, CiteSeer etc to find relevant prior art
(ie. published before 2001). Existing systems and products are also
prior art, not just papers and reports. Prior art can relate to just one
of the claims, or several, not necessarily all of them. There are heaps,
I am sure.

Tim C

> On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 21:40 +1100, Tim Churches wrote:
>> Tony Eviston wrote:
>>> Tim Churches wrote:
>>>> I have asked jenny how we can access a copy of the patent application -
>>>> I can see teh application details, but not the application itself in the
>>>> IP Australia Web site. How did we access it in 2004?
>>> http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=WO02073456&F=0&QPN=WO02073456
>> Thanks Tony. Jenny Laffey also sent this (and attachment).
>>
>> Tim C
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: RE: FW: Email to Tim Churches and GPCG
>> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:46:41 +1100
>> From: Jenny Laffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> CC: 'Vincent McCauley' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> Dear Tim
>>
>> Sorry - that would certainly help!
>>
>> The complete documentation lives at the European Patent Office website:
>> http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=WO02073456&F=0
>>
>> but have attached the list of Claims which are the gist of it which will
>> save GPCG members having to go to website unless they're really keen.
>>
>> Summary of lodgment details with respect to the Australian patent
>> application are at:
>> http://pericles.ipaustralia.gov.au/ols/searching/patsearch/search_page.jsp
>> Reference 2002242456
>>
>> One thing that came out of your 2004 discussions was your correspondence
>> with overseas contacts esp in Europe - sounded like your correspondents
>> believed that we successfully opposed it here, it would go down in flames
>> everywhere.  Based on my conversations with IP Aust people here, this
>> doesn't seem to be the case; any overseas parties who might be affected by
>> its lodgment in their country may wish to oppose it in accordance with the
>> patent opposition processes there.  We are not certain of the status of it
>> elsewhere.
>>
>> Vince has been in touch with DoHA about this who sound like they have
>> reached an arrangement with the Guild.  Since uncertainty will remain for
>> industry whether this patent is in the hands of Guild or government, the
>> MSIA is still planning to submit an opposition regardless.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Jenny Laffey
>> EPISOFT
>> Director Business Development
>> M  0416 110 294
>> F   02 9489 0852
>> E   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> W  www.episoft.com.au
>>
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