Jon Patrick wrote:
I'm backtracking to an old item so as to respond to this email from
Syan as it implied there was some role we could serve.
I don't find syan's proposal for this research so readily achievable.
Firstly we would have to have access to a collaborators data and DB
environment to do anything at all. That is not an easy thing to
arrange. Secondly we would then have to come to terms with the DB
software and the schema for the application - a lengthy task. Thirdly
the matter of what analytics you provide is a very open question. Let
me describe what we are doing on this quarter.
Currently we are working at three sites learning how to use 3
different DBMS and naturally 3 very different schemata. The sites are:
Westmead Hospital & SWAHS on the CARDS system - a specialist
Cardiology IS
SEALS (SouthEastern Area Laboratory Services) - part of SES&I AHS
working on their ONTOLAB system
RPAH -ICU Carevue system.
In each case we are doing what we call "Forensic Data Modelling", that
is, reconstructing the data model and figuring out how to program in
the local language to get at the data. We are on our 6th project at
the at the RPA, 2nd Project at Westmead and first at SEALS. It took 5
projects to crack the problem at RPA, we've been little faster at the
other sites. A project is 1 student semester of work.
At the Westmead and SEALS we are just trying to rescue the data from
deteriorating ISs and to help map a pathway to new systems. We have
been asked by NSWHealth to provide a report on this work so that they
can consider how to tackle the problem across the whole state.
At the RPA we are tackling a wider problem which we call Generalised
Data Analytics, that is how do you answer any question for which the
answer is in the database - this is more than just getting the data
into an ehr and learning how to use some statistical methods. This
work is part of a wider project to build an Intensive Care Real-time
Audit System (ICRAS) for evaluating patient care continuously.
Yes we are happy to collaborate with members of the list but doing the
work to produce results is not something that can rattled off so easily.
Brilliant Jon.
You and your team are a glimmer of hope on the horizon.
David
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